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rb608 wrote:

I agree; one of the best thing about that event was the turnout.

The Democratic turnout was phenomenal, especially when you consider that
under the (arcane) rules of the Democratic caucus a voter has to devote
about two hours to the process. (The Republicans just show up and vote.)

The Republicans are going to get their asses kicked in November, and
they richly deserve it. The only thing that could spoil the party would
be a Bloomberg independent run.

I was gratified to see that Ron Paul beat Rudy Giuliani 2-1. Jimmy
Breslin called Giuliani "a small man in search of a balcony." His polls
are tanking in New Hampshire. He's toast, which is great, because he'd
be a very dangerous president.

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rw wrote in
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He's toast, which is great, because he'd
be a very dangerous president.


Any New Yorker would tell you he's not electable. The Dems have been
holding back on criticism, probably just on the off shot that he might win
the primary.


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rw wrote in
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He's toast, which is great, because he'd
be a very dangerous president.



Any New Yorker would tell you he's not electable. The Dems have been
holding back on criticism, probably just on the off shot that he might win
the primary.

Now the Republican front runners are a bible-thumping bumpkin and a
flip-flopping cultist. Maybe there's hope for McCain after all.

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"rw" wrote

Jimmy
Breslin called Giuliani "a small man in search of a balcony." His polls
are tanking in New Hampshire. He's toast, which is great, because he'd be
a very dangerous president.



I couldn't agree more. Like Bush has done, he's trying to suck as much
personal gain and profit from the Sept 11th tragedy as he can. It is
strategy beneath contempt, IMO.

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"rw" wrote

Jimmy
Breslin called Giuliani "a small man in search of a balcony." His polls
are tanking in New Hampshire. He's toast, which is great, because he'd be
a very dangerous president.



I couldn't agree more. Like Bush has done, he's trying to suck as
much personal gain and profit from the Sept 11th tragedy as he can. It
is strategy beneath contempt, IMO.


Welcome to politics. ALL strategies leading to a hoped for election to
national office are beneath contempt. That's what happens when you pander
to the contemptible.

Wolfgang
who, obvious futility notwithstanding, still hopes to live to see a day when
pogo's observation is no longer applicable.

"Larry L" wrote in
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"rw" wrote

Jimmy
Breslin called Giuliani "a small man in search of a balcony." His
polls are tanking in New Hampshire. He's toast, which is great,
because he'd be a very dangerous president.



I couldn't agree more. Like Bush has done, he's trying to suck as
much personal gain and profit from the Sept 11th tragedy as he can.
It is strategy beneath contempt, IMO.




Chris Rock on Rudy Giuliani (from Real Time with Bill Maher)
21 March 2007 · 2 Comments

“Rudy, you know, Rudy in a crisis is the perfect — he’s like a pitbull.
It’s great if somebody’s breaking in your house. But if they’re not, then,
you know, the pitbull might eat your kids.”



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On Jan 4, 8:13 am, jeff miller wrote:

but, damn, i'm hopeful and nearly
optimistic. g more than 50% of the caucus participants were 1st
timers...perhaps all us cynics are dying out and there will be a new
vigor in a changed political world.

I agree; one of the best thing about that event was the turnout. The
quantitative results weren't as I preferred, but the enthusiasm of the
participants was good to see. The punditry still sucked, and I mostly
watched the Orange Bowl instead of the verbal masturbation being
passed off as insight and analysis.

Joe F.


I'd have never guessed youse guys were such big Huckabee fans...

IAC, after coming in third, if I were, well, anyone but Hillary, I'd be
hunkered down for the assault from the "well-oiled Clintonista
machine"...

TC,
R
...I still say if McCain and Obama would join together, they'd be the
most electable thing going...and if McCain and Richardson would (with a
spot and a muzzle for Ron Paul on the Cabinet), it'd be the closest
thing to a "_d_emocratic ticket" the US is gonna see...

Though I know you were pluckin some feathers, I actually meant the whole
deal - including on the, ugh, republican side. you'll note i didn't
identify a particular party in my post. Huckabee is frightening to me
for a number of very idiosyncratic reasons, but the fact he won over the
likes of romney and ghouliani was in fact heartening as a sign of
something new in the Godawful Old Party.

(...and, i've not forgotten your early prognostications.)

jeff

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rb608 wrote:

I agree; one of the best thing about that event was the turnout. The
quantitative results weren't as I preferred, but the enthusiasm of the
participants was good to see. The punditry still sucked, and I mostly
watched the Orange Bowl instead of the verbal masturbation being
passed off as insight and analysis.

Obama's victory speech was a masterpiece, he's really
hitting his stride and striking all the right chords.
He's even changed the way he pronounces "poverty" to
sound reminiscent of MLK Jr. He's the real deal.

On the Repub side the GOP establishment is ****tin'
bricks about now. The snake handling rubes are supposed
to vote GOP and then disappear for four years. Huck is
their worst nightmare, the rube strategy come home to
roost.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Obama is a great talker. But where is the experience to be the CEO of the
country?

On Jan 4, 1:45*pm, Jeff wrote:
wrote:

On Jan 4, 8:13 am, jeff miller wrote:

but, damn, i'm hopeful and nearly
optimistic. g *more than 50% of the caucus participants were 1st
timers...perhaps all us cynics are dying out and there will be a new
vigor in a changed political world.

I agree; one of the best thing about that event was the turnout. *The
quantitative results weren't as I preferred, but the enthusiasm of the
participants was good to see. *The punditry still sucked, and I mostly
watched the Orange Bowl instead of the verbal masturbation being
passed off as insight and analysis.

Joe F.

I'd have never guessed youse guys were such big Huckabee fans...

IAC, after coming in third, if I were, well, anyone but Hillary, I'd be
hunkered down for the assault from the "well-oiled Clintonista
machine"...

TC,
R
...I still say if McCain and Obama would join together, they'd be the
most electable thing going...and if McCain and Richardson would (with a
spot and a muzzle for Ron Paul on the Cabinet), it'd be the closest
thing to a "_d_emocratic ticket" the US is gonna see...

Though I know you were pluckin some feathers, I actually meant the whole
deal - including on the, ugh, republican side. you'll note i didn't
identify a particular party in my post. Huckabee is frightening to me
for a number of very idiosyncratic reasons, but the fact he won over the
likes of romney and ghouliani was in fact heartening as a sign of
something new in the Godawful Old Party.

(...and, i've not forgotten your early prognostications.)

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Well, the way I see the Republican caucus was really a change for the
worse. Huckabee, although on the surface appears to be a decent guy,
is supported by the extreme right wing bible thumping faction of the
party. I am an independent who tends to vote Republican, but I doubt
seriously that I would vote for Huckabee.

What I want in a candidate, is someone who will do for energy
independence, what JFK did for the space race. If a viable candidate
would stand up and promise to bring us energy independence from OPEC
in, say 10/20 years, and show a comprehesive plan by which this could
be accomplished, he/she would have my vote, regardless of race,
gender, or party affiliation. My belief is that most of our problems
in the middle east come as the result of our oil dependency. If that
goes away, then they can no longer hold us hostage with threats of
shutting down the oil supply, and their money will have to come from
China and other emerging economies. The other major benefit would be
the economic opportunities available in the "new" energy technologies.

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rb608 wrote:

I agree; one of the best thing about that event was the turnout. The
quantitative results weren't as I preferred, but the enthusiasm of the
participants was good to see. The punditry still sucked, and I mostly
watched the Orange Bowl instead of the verbal masturbation being
passed off as insight and analysis.

Obama's victory speech was a masterpiece, he's really
hitting his stride and striking all the right chords.
He's even changed the way he pronounces "poverty" to
sound reminiscent of MLK Jr. He's the real deal.

On the Repub side the GOP establishment is ****tin'
bricks about now. The snake handling rubes are supposed
to vote GOP and then disappear for four years. Huck is
their worst nightmare, the rube strategy come home to
roost.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Obama is a great talker. But where is the experience to be the CEO of the
country?

How many people can you name who have had experience as President of the
United States prior to their first election to the position of President of
the United States?

Careful.....it's a trick question.

Dumbass.

Wolfgang