The other adult beverage.....

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"Steve" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:46:22 -0600, "Wolfgang"
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So, acidity? I
think maybe I don't know enough about the nuances of coffee to say just
what
it is I like about this one. I THOUGHT it was the LACK of acidity. But
the
descriptions of the East African coffees at the site above make much of
their acidity being one of their stong features. I dunno. Got a lot left
to learn, I guess.

Acidity when used to describe coffee is different from bitter.
Check this out, if you are interested
http://coffeereview.com/reference.cfm

Thanks, Steve, I'll check it out.

Every group has it's jargon. I mean, come on, we're really fling
fisherman aren't we?

Give us enough coffee......or other adult beverages......and we fly!


Wolfgang

Jackhole

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On Jan 11, 10:57 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Give us enough coffee......or other adult beverages......and we fly!


Or ursine encouragement. :-)

I was.....um.....luring it away to save Frank. Yeah, that's what I was
doing.

Wolfgang
it's true what they say.....no good dead, however small, goes unpunished.


^^^^^
Get a spellchecker, 1st grade dropout.

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"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

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Give us enough coffee......or other adult beverages......and we fly!

Or ursine encouragement. :-)

I was.....um.....luring it away to save Frank. Yeah, that's what I was
doing.

Wolfgang
it's true what they say.....no good dead, however small, goes unpunished.
^^^^

Interesting spelling. Was that an accident? :-)


Chuck Vance (no pun intended)

Opps!

Wolfgang
who would still rather be read than dead.

Dont let the helldogs butt rape you too often when you die.

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"Wolfgang" wrote



If not, any true coffee lover should definitely look into the do it
yourself thing.



I drink WAY too much of the stuff and always buy whole beans and grind
them just before preparing ( I generally use a French Press style pot )

I haven't tried roasting beans but with this encouragement I just may do
so soon

What I've tasted so far convinces me that I made a wiser decision in this
than I do in most of my purchases.

I could have, and probably should have, done some more reading before buying
a $70 machine to roast coffee, but I trust Rodger's judgment in these
matters. Subsequent reading reveals that I could have simply bought the
beans and roasted tham in a pan on the stove top. If you try that method
first, the worst that can happen is that you're out five or six bucks for a
pound of beans. Based on my first attempt at using the machine, and Becky's
first, and Rodger's 25 years, I'd say that the worst isn't likey to happen.
If you don't like the first try, roast the second a little less.....or a
little more.....to suit your taste. And then, you only need to roast as
much at a time as suits your immediate needs.....it only takes five to ten
minutes. The remaining beans can be stored at room temp for a year or two.

There IS one potential drawback, though. Roasting coffee beans is an
extremely aromatic experience! Even a relatively light roast like I prefer
leaves my apartment reeking of coffee (I don't have an exhaust fan). I
didn't realize the full impact until I stepped outside and then came back
in. Everything I've read thus far, including the instructions that came
with the machine, says that a really dark roast WILL produce smoke. Anyone
who doesn't like a really powerful smell of roasting coffee will definitely
NOT be pleased. And we're talking about an odor that's got some staying
power.

ASIDE: As I say, I drink lots of coffee, fresh ground and brewed from a
variety of beans ... I thinnk of myself as a serious coffee drinker.
But I always feel like a real country bumpkin when forced to buy my
morning fix from a trendy coffee shop .... the list of fancy products on
the list always leaves me wondering "what the hell is a Lattie" ( or
whatever) and "how do I just order a good cup of strong black coffee?"
.... the "adult beverage" in your subject line makes me again ponder, "are
these kiddie drinks full of whipped cream really coffee?"

De gustibus non est disputandum.

What ****es me off (aside from the already mentioned fact that it all tastes
like ****) is that you can't get "a small cup of coffee." You gotta speak
some other language.

Wolfgang

Assmunch

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On Jan 10, 2:10 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
What ****es me off (aside from the already mentioned fact that it all
tastes
like ****) is that you can't get "a small cup of coffee." You gotta speak
some other language.

That's one thing I won't do. I order a "small" and let them figure it
out. Some times I *have* be there, but I don't have to speak their
language.

Sometimes, on the road and in need of a fix, it's the only thing I can find.
I ask for a small coffee. They say our sizes are ibitty, bibitty, blah.....
I say are those the names of the various sizes of cups you serve? They say
yes sir. Well then, GIVE ME THE SMALL ONE!

(For a retail cup of coffee, though, it beats most other places. Most
other places for me being fast food, gas stations, & convenience
stores. Oh yeah, and the office.)

Somewhat surprisingly, the Kwikee Marts around here (well, some of them
anyway) are starting to use something more akin to boutique coffees and
brewing them directly into giant thermos jugs. Still ain't the nectar of
the Gods, but it's a damned sight better than what's been available for at
least the last forty years.....and much better than Starbucks.

Wolfgang

Fagboy

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"Steve" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:29:57 -0600, "Wolfgang"
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Somewhat surprisingly, the Kwikee Marts around here (well, some of them
anyway) are starting to use something more akin to boutique coffees and
brewing them directly into giant thermos jugs. Still ain't the nectar of
the Gods, but it's a damned sight better than what's been available for at
least the last forty years.....and much better than Starbucks.

Wait until you try a McDonald's coffee from their new outlets and
recover from the shock of being served a pretty decent cup.

Many years ago they did make a pretty good cup of coffee. Can't remember
just when it was but all of a sudden it went right into the toilet.....also
a long time ago. Not that I get into McDonald's much anymore (maybe three
or four times a year for a Big Mac), but it would be good to know that
there's good coffee available somewhere on the road.

Wolfgang

Dumb****

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On Jan 10, 2:10 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
You gotta speak
some other language.

My brother in law and I often muse on how it is that Starbucks seems
to have copyright on the Italian word for "twenty". :-)

In addition to your fascination with the roasting end of things,
consider- and it's not hard having seen the replies to this thread-
the various methods of passing the water through the grounds when
preparing the brew. Each method brings out a different flavor to the
end product, even if you use the same beans. I go through various
enthusiasms in this regard that last from a day at a time to months on
end- from standard drip machine through stove-top espresso maker (like
the aluminum one I use in camp on the Svea), pour-through (like the
other method I use when making a single cup in camp or the Chemex Tom
mentions), French press, and of course the simple "cowboy coffee"
method many of us use when there is a group in camp. All work equally
well- whether in the wilds or in the kitchen- and all will give a
different taste.

Yeah, I've messed around with all sorts of brewing methods for a long long
time. The French Press method looked appealing, and I still know a lot of
people who prefer it, but it does nothing at all for me.....too much sort of
in between and undecided in terms of get the grounds out or leave them in.
Percolators are an abomination, no need to equivocate. My favorite is the
drip method.....through unbleached paper, thank you very much, none of the
reusable (reuseless, if you ask me) wire mesh crap. Second
best.....surprisingly.....is cowboy coffee, which pretty much rapes all the
conventional wisdom about brewing coffee.

Most methods suggest that the water be slightly
below the boiling point when you put them on the grounds- not sure why
the espresso method works so well considering this, but who's to
argue? It works!

Espresso is a law unto itself.....it's SUPPOSED TO taste like asphalt.

Wm
(who likes milk and a little sugar with his morning cuppa.... so sue
me! :-)

Grew up drinking it that way.....well, from age 7 to 10 or so. I'll still
do that once in a while. Or, even better, plop a nice big gob of ice cream
in it! But that's not coffee. That's just a coffee flavored dessert.


Wolfgang

Molestor of little girls

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"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

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Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies like
I had at my campsite?

Nah, I haven't gotten one. Espresso is something I like every once in a
great while.....not enough to justify buying apparatus for making it.
I've found that mooching off of fishing companions suits my needs
perfectly.

That's cool. I also enjoyed mooching your advice and that Pass Lake.
:-)

Now if Wolfgang can just forgive me for using Starbucks (aka,
"Charbucks") in the thing. :-}
The one nice thing about Starbucks is that you can use any of their
beans to make espresso. No, it won't be good, but none of it will be
worse than any other.

It's sort of the McDonalds of the coffee world in that respect.

And to tie in with another part of this thread: McDonalds in
Canuckistan have been serving pretty decent coffee for quite a while. I
never drink coffee at convenience stores or fast food restaurants, but
Carol told me to try some one day and I was surprised at how much it
tasted like real coffee. :-}

Chuck Vance (who admits to knowing next to nothing at all about
coffee, except it goes nicely with a cig when sitting by the Little
River on a cool morning)
Yeah, that was good.

Indeed. And I hope to repeat that scene this year. Nothing finalized
yet, but it looks like Carol has resigned herself to the fact that I plan
to make the trip again. She even got me some new speakers for my car for
xmas, saying if I was gonna be driving all those miles, I should at least
have some decent sound in there. :-)

So I should be back about the same time of year (early May), and I plan
to camp in the same spot if possible.

I'll bring my coffee maker ... you bring the beans. :-)


Chuck Vance (and a few Pass Lakes)

I'm currently trying to decide which of several time slots and venues Jeff
has proposed to take him up on. So many choices, so little time!

Wolfgang

testiclelicker

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Interesting. I've never really noted any flavor imparted by the
filter.....except when forced to use a paper towel in emergency situations.
I always opted for the unfiltered purely on the basis of environmental
considerations. Ah well, yet another set of experiments to conduct.


Wolfgang

Fudgepacker

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:03:27 -0700, rw
wrote:

Steve wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:55:46 -0700, rw
wrote:


My companion and I decided we needed a cup of tea to warm up,
so we stopped into a "tea tasting" place.


We'll be in The City this weekend.
Would you share the name of this place?

I don't remember the name but it's on the east side of Grant Ave in
Chinatown.


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