So, OK, he's for change, he gives Chris Mathews a feeling "up his leg," and...

Jim Edmondson wrote:

mccain has now been fully revealed...he's a
chameleon...and old! g

jeff


Jeff, do you ever hire/train any young people on the job? They are very
personable, socially aware, "different", they love change, but they
can't do jack **** without someone holding their hand for awhile - who's
gonna be holding Obama's hand?


Obama is 45 years old.

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Hello rw,


Jim
mailto: j.g.edmondson at att dot net

Jim Edmondson wrote:

mccain has now been fully revealed...he's a
chameleon...and old! g
jeff

Jeff, do you ever hire/train any young people on the job? They are
very personable, socially aware, "different", they love change, but
they can't do jack **** without someone holding their hand for awhile
- who's gonna be holding Obama's hand?

Obama is 45 years old.


that's a good point - he is young for the job he's applying for, isn't he?

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:13:09 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:


and old! g


And just *what* is the matter with old?

d;o)



in terms of living...nothing, and it certainly is much preferred to the
alternatives. however, in terms of mccain and the presidency, "old" was
intended to have several meanings..."stale", "dated", "used", "not new",
and, of course, just too friggin OLD! g

jeff (old, and lookin forward to gettin older...)

Jim Edmondson wrote:
Hello rw,


Jim
mailto: j.g.edmondson at att dot net

Jim Edmondson wrote:

mccain has now been fully revealed...he's a
chameleon...and old! g
jeff

Jeff, do you ever hire/train any young people on the job? They are
very personable, socially aware, "different", they love change, but
they can't do jack **** without someone holding their hand for awhile
- who's gonna be holding Obama's hand?

Obama is 45 years old.


that's a good point - he is young for the job he's applying for, isn't he?



My favorite president, Theodore Roosevelt, was 42 years old when
inaugurated.

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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:56:13 +0000 (UTC), Jim Edmondson
wrote:


mccain has now been fully revealed...he's a
chameleon...and old! g

jeff


Jeff, do you ever hire/train any young people on the job? They are very
personable, socially aware, "different", they love change, but they can't
do jack **** without someone holding their hand for awhile - who's gonna
be holding Obama's hand?

Um...Louie, the FAT OLD rioperbate prirate...?

Seriously, though, I'm beginning to think that Teddy Kennedy plans on a
fair amount of hand time with the boy...Obama, not Louie...

TC,
R

Hello rw,

Jim
mailto: j.g.edmondson at att dot net
Jim Edmondson wrote:

mccain has now been fully revealed...he's a
chameleon...and old! g
jeff
Jeff, do you ever hire/train any young people on the job? They are
very personable, socially aware, "different", they love change, but
they can't do jack **** without someone holding their hand for
awhile - who's gonna be holding Obama's hand?

Obama is 45 years old.

that's a good point - he is young for the job he's applying for, isn't
he?


sorry for replying to my own post, but ...

in his 45 years and as a state and national legislator what exactly has Obama
done that matters?

and I don't mean what has he said or how does he make you feel!

is there any legislation with his name on it?

has even been pesent to vote at a reasonable level of attendance?

what about earmarks - has he answered that question?

Jeff wrote:
Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:13:09 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:


and old! g



And just *what* is the matter with old?

d;o)



in terms of living...nothing, and it certainly is much preferred to the
alternatives. however, in terms of mccain and the presidency, "old" was
intended to have several meanings..."stale", "dated", "used", "not new",
and, of course, just too friggin OLD! g

jeff (old, and lookin forward to gettin older...)

McCain will probably pick an extreme right-wing candidate for VP to suck
up to the Republican base, which detests him. If he dies or becomes
incapacitated in office, which given his age is not unlikely, we'll be
stuck with another fool.

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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:23:35 -0700, rw
wrote:

My favorite president, Theodore Roosevelt, was 42 years old when
inaugurated.

But he had years in training, years in leadership roles, years of
worldly experience. And, there were no nuclear weapons in the hands
of terrorists. Hell, the U.S. didn't even *know* what a terrorist
was. The world is a helluva lot different that it was 100 years ago.
I think Teddy would be ok today, but I have my doubts about Obama.
ABC: Anyone But Clinton

wrote:

Folks who call others "inspiring" or "persuasive" have always both
saddened and amused me when they do so. ...

It must suck to be as cynical as all that, on the other hand
I suppose it's a good thing to be easily amused.

Um, well, as to "true colors," I'd offer that there have been little
more than hints, even assuming they are not red herrings, in "revealing"
Obama, but those few hints indicate that he ain't exactly married to
this color or that (and while a pun isn't exactly _intended_, it ain't
not intended, either...).

"Little more than hints" ? Are you serious ? Have you actually
read "The Audacity of Hope" ? No presidential candidate in his
or her right mind is going to spell out policy specifics in the
primaries. Presidents do not rule by fiat so anything they propose
will necessarily be watered down and transmogrified in Congress
anyway. And like Huckabee said the other day, when you elect a
president you don't want the guy who can fix the carburetor you
want the guy who can drive the car.

And if Obama is "the real deal," and
literally means what he says, I'd offer that he doesn't want your
support, at least until you can get past being so rabidly anti-GOP...
after all, they were, IIRC, the party of ideas not so long ago...

Yeah, the party of bad ideas and they remain so. Look there's
nothing wrong with voting for Obama because he's not a Republican.
In fact that's reason enough to vote for him.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:22:44 -0500, Jeff wrote:

in terms of living...nothing, and it certainly is much preferred to the
alternatives. however, in terms of mccain and the presidency, "old" was
intended to have several meanings..."stale", "dated", "used", "not new",
and, of course, just too friggin OLD! g

jeff (old, and lookin forward to gettin older...)

Ahhh, but you left out "experience", "knowledge", "wisdom", "insight".
Ain't nothin' wrong with being old as long as your mind remains
strong. I'll take old in many things before I'll take young.

Otoh, although I will vote for McCain, I can probably live with Obama,
as long as he keeps me and mine safe. That is all I ask. What does
scare me is Teddy Kennedy's endorsement. What is *that* about and
what is it going to cost me. There is no "change" with Teddy being in
the picture. "Change" is but a word.

ABC Anyone But Clinton.

Dave



Dave