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Old February 16th, 2008, 06:25 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Refreshingly - something, other than party politics are usual.

Obama told the Reno Gazette-Journal editorial board Monday that "Reagan
changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not
and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally
different path because the country was ready for it," Obama said.

"I think it's fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas
for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10 to 15 years in
the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom," Obama told
the newspaper.


http://newsok.com/article/3194476/1200694723?mp=0


When a Democratic presidential candidate can praise Reagan and the
Republican party, maybe there is some hope for moderating the divide
between the two parties and the animosity between their supporters.


Willi
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Old February 16th, 2008, 07:23 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:25:02 -0700, Willi wrote:


Refreshingly - something, other than party politics are usual.

Obama told the Reno Gazette-Journal editorial board Monday that "Reagan
changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not
and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally
different path because the country was ready for it," Obama said.

"I think it's fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas
for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10 to 15 years in
the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom," Obama told
the newspaper.


http://newsok.com/article/3194476/1200694723?mp=0


When a Democratic presidential candidate can praise Reagan and the
Republican party, maybe there is some hope for moderating the divide
between the two parties and the animosity between their supporters.


Willi


Not to burst your bubble, but what precisely did you read in Obama's published
statements on the above topic that you conclude constitute "praise"?

/daytripper (personally, I didn't see it then, and I don't see it now...)
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Old February 16th, 2008, 08:07 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Willi wrote:

Refreshingly - something, other than party politics are usual.

Obama told the Reno Gazette-Journal editorial board Monday that "Reagan
changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not
and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally
different path because the country was ready for it," Obama said.

"I think it's fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas
for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10 to 15 years in
the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom," Obama told
the newspaper.


http://newsok.com/article/3194476/1200694723?mp=0


When a Democratic presidential candidate can praise Reagan and the
Republican party, maybe there is some hope for moderating the divide
between the two parties and the animosity between their supporters.


Willi


Predictably. Obama was attacked by Clinton for those comments, as though
he were saying that they were all GOOD ideas.

I think what he was trying to get across, and which I think is true or
at least possible, is that like Reagan he would be a transformative
president, especially if in the general election he attracts
independents and cross-over Republicans.

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Old February 16th, 2008, 08:10 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Willi wrote:

Refreshingly - something, other than party politics are usual.

Obama told the Reno Gazette-Journal editorial board Monday that "Reagan
changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not
and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally
different path because the country was ready for it," Obama said.

"I think it's fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas
for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10 to 15 years in
the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom," Obama told
the newspaper.


http://newsok.com/article/3194476/1200694723?mp=0


When a Democratic presidential candidate can praise Reagan and the
Republican party, maybe there is some hope for moderating the divide
between the two parties and the animosity between their supporters.


There was no praise, only an objective stating of the facts.
Reagan did, through the force of his avuncular personality,
lead America down the rosy path of rack and ruin where the
rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Those ideas were bad
then and they're bad now, but yeah the GOP sure had a lot of
them.

--
Ken Fortenberry
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Old February 16th, 2008, 10:58 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
There was no praise, only an objective stating of the facts.
Reagan did, through the force of his avuncular personality,
lead America down the rosy path of rack and ruin where the
rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Those ideas were bad
then and they're bad now, but yeah the GOP sure had a lot of
them.


The facts be damned. The wingers have a sound bite and they're running with
it, not unlike Gore's "I created the internet" myth.

Joe F.


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Old February 17th, 2008, 04:25 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:58:29 GMT, "rb608"
wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
There was no praise, only an objective stating of the facts.
Reagan did, through the force of his avuncular personality,
lead America down the rosy path of rack and ruin where the
rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Those ideas were bad
then and they're bad now, but yeah the GOP sure had a lot of
them.


The facts be damned. The wingers have a sound bite and they're running with
it, not unlike Gore's "I created the internet" myth.


Yeah, when I think of rabid GOP/wingers, Willi is the first guy I think
of...

HTH,
R

Joe F.

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Old February 17th, 2008, 10:25 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Feb 17, 11:25*am, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:58:29 GMT, "rb608"

wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
There was no praise, only an objective stating of the facts.
Reagan did, through the force of his avuncular personality,
lead America down the rosy path of rack and ruin where the
rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Those ideas were bad
then and they're bad now, but yeah the GOP sure had a lot of
them.


The facts be damned. *The wingers have a sound bite and they're running with
it, not unlike Gore's "I created the internet" myth.


Yeah, when I think of rabid GOP/wingers, Willi is the first guy I think
of...

HTH,
R





Joe F.- Hide quoted text -


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hilarious. the damn guy cannot be reasoned with...
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Old February 18th, 2008, 06:07 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Willi" wrote in message
...

Refreshingly - something, other than party politics are usual.

Obama told the Reno Gazette-Journal editorial board Monday that "Reagan
changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and
in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different
path because the country was ready for it," Obama said.

"I think it's fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas for
a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10 to 15 years in the
sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom," Obama told the
newspaper.


http://newsok.com/article/3194476/1200694723?mp=0


When a Democratic presidential candidate can praise Reagan and the
Republican party, maybe there is some hope for moderating the divide
between the two parties and the animosity between their supporters.


When a Democratic presidential candidate can praise Reagan and the
Republican party it indicates that Democratic presidential candidates, like
all career politicians, are capable of saying whatever they think (rightly
or otherwise) will improve their chances of getting elected.

The animosity between the supporters of candidates from the two major
political parties in this country is simply proof of something or other that
smells bad.

Wolfgang
who knows that the best way to be rid of bad smells is to find out what
causes them......and then remove it.

Wolfgang


 




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