So, OK, he's for change, he gives Chris Mathews a feeling "up his leg," and...

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:14:59 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:

"myfoxhouston"? what's with that? you're not one of those who think
obama is a muslim too, are you? i know mccain supporters who are
blatantly and unapologetically racist...does that identify your guy?

Apparently it is the Fox network station out of Houston. I've never
judged a man by his religion. If McCain's supporters who are racist
work for him and display racist posters, he should get rid of them.
The man is running for POTUS; he should have NO connection with Che
Guevara or any other Communist revolutionary. Guevara AND Kennedy?
What a team......

Dave

Dave LaCourse wrote:
snip
Bush was re-elected by a wide margin because you boys put a traitor,
liar, and womanizer up against him. ...

No matter how many times the Swiftboating of Kerry is proven
to be a pack of despicable lies some wingnuts will repeat it
as truth anyway.

Here's something for your reading pleasure Louie;
Puffing Up John McCain, POW
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/print/12676/

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
If McCain's supporters who are racist
work for him and display racist posters, he should get rid of them.

Get rid of them how? He can't fire them if they're volunteers. How could
McCain or any other candidate inspect the personal spaces or vouch for
uniformity of thought for every one of his supporters?

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:32:29 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:

Dave

ok dave...8 years as gub of califoricatya. and his experience before
attaining that exalted proving ground? and that prepared him to be
president how? and reagan's gubernatorial time is better, superior,
more compelling than obama's state legislative experience, education,
senate experience how?


FWIW, gubernatorial experience is at least arguably more practical than
congressional because it is executive rather than legislative or
judicial. Moreover, given the system as it is in the US, a legislator
is has no (direct) duty to those not his (direct) constituents, and
arguably has a duty to put those citizens he/she represents "in front"
of those of colleagues or in other "non-constituent" categories, whereas
the POTUS' (direct) constituents, at least in theory, are all citizens
and he has a more direct duty to visitors and guests of or to the US,
protectorates, etc.

TC,
R


arguably?? is that it?

Probably...at least arguably so...

IAC, the Che thing is a "yesterday's news" kinda non-issue last I heard.
Some vols (not at the Houston HQ) were stupid enough to a) have the
Cuban flag with the Che image on it in the office (on a wall above and
behind a desk), and b) allow a cameraperson to shoot a shot of someone
sitting at the desk. I'm pretty sure no one really thinks Obama
directly "ordered" it.

TC,
R

"rb608" wrote in message
news:6aXtj.3519$0%3.2978@trnddc06...
"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
If McCain's supporters who are racist
work for him and display racist posters, he should get rid of them.

Get rid of them how? He can't fire them if they're volunteers.

You know I thought the same, until myself and most of the volunteers who
opened the Perot campaign headquarter in Raleigh and Charlotte, NC were fire
wholesale, and Perot sent in his *Dallas White Shirts back in '92. They
acquired the rented office space from the landlord and changed the door
locks. It happend all over the country. I talked to Perot volunteers in
many state, at that time, who were also let go and replaced by the Dallas
White Shirts.

How could McCain or any other candidate inspect the personal spaces or
vouch for uniformity of thought for every one of his supporters?

Agreed.

Op
*Mostly graduates from Texas Christian University, if memory serves.

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:50:31 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
The same reason I said Bush, twice - he is the best in the (practical)
field of two, no more, no less.

gawd, I hope you are referring to Bush as in GHW, as I am astounded that
anyone of sound mind could look back on the second vote for George W as
anything based upon good sense.

Nope, I mean Bush, the younger, and I still think he is/was a better
choice than Kerry was/would have been. But once election day is past,
it's a little too late to get a do-over anyway, so I don't look with
hindsight at what/who "might have happened" as anything more than a
point of rhetorical discussion. I know you know this, but for others,
the idea that, IMO, Bush was a better choice out of a field of two
doesn't translate into my being a "Bush supporter" in general.

TC,
R



seriously, IMO, not much "change" can occur if the vote is yet another
50.01% versus 49.99% squeaker regardless of who actually "wins."

and this much I do agree with. Somewhere along the way, something of a
consensus has to be built, or the nation will continue to blunder forward,
to the detriment of us all.

Tom

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:49:08 -0500, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:14:59 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:

"myfoxhouston"? what's with that? you're not one of those who think
obama is a muslim too, are you? i know mccain supporters who are
blatantly and unapologetically racist...does that identify your guy?

Apparently it is the Fox network station out of Houston. I've never
judged a man by his religion. If McCain's supporters who are racist
work for him and display racist posters, he should get rid of them.
The man is running for POTUS; he should have NO connection with Che
Guevara or any other Communist revolutionary. Guevara AND Kennedy?
What a team......

You seem to have really taken my mention of Kennedy and run with it.
Here's my "fear" with Kennedy - note it has nothing to do with Teddy's
personal, er, foibles:

I haven't really kept up with Teddy in Congress and at home as of late,
but he's still a Kennedy and I don't see him endorsing Obama (or anyone
else) simply because, gosh darnit, it'd be good for the ol' US of A.
Surely, Obama knew when he got a call from them (the Kennedy machine),
it was a quid pro quo kinda thing, and that's giving him the benefit of
the doubt that HE didn't make the call out. If had been just Caroline
with a little jungle fever and a touch of the old "he's just like my
daddy, St. Jack of Camelot," maybe - not likely, but a slight maybe - it
was simple, genuine rah, rah, but with whole machine cranked up? No
way, no how. So, IAC, Obama deals or he doesn't. Obama takes the call.
That leaves only a coupla-three explanations: first, he is a pol, and
that's what young pols do - take scratch-my-back calls from old pols,
or, two, he's politically VERY naive and actually told himself that
Kennedy was just another rich white swooner with a man-crush, or three,
he's dumber than a sack of wet biscuits. Personally, I pretty much
scratch option three smooth off the list and two don't look real
promising either, so that leaves us with option one. For all the
rah-rah and hope horse****, at the end of the day, he's a pol. Good.
He's running for POTUS. He damned well better be. I didn't think he
was out to dinner one night several years ago, got slipped a mickey, and
awoke to find that he had been Shanghaied into the Illinois House. Which
brings us back to a paraphrasing of my question: just what kind of pol
is this sumbitch, what did that piece of **** Kennedy get out of the
deal, and just bad is it gonna wind up ****ing _me_?

TC,
R

Dave

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:55:56 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:50:31 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
The same reason I said Bush, twice - he is the best in the (practical)
field of two, no more, no less.

gawd, I hope you are referring to Bush as in GHW, as I am astounded that
anyone of sound mind could look back on the second vote for George W as
anything based upon good sense.

Nope, I mean Bush, the younger, and I still think he is/was a better
choice than Kerry was/would have been. But once election day is past,
it's a little too late to get a do-over anyway, so I don't look with
hindsight at what/who "might have happened" as anything more than a
point of rhetorical discussion.

cough

I know you know this, but for others,
the idea that, IMO, Bush was a better choice out of a field of two
doesn't translate into my being a "Bush supporter" in general.

TC,
R

Oh, gee, no, of course!

(ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!)

/daytripper (aren't you just the li'l cutest pipsqueek, ever! ;-)

wrote in message
If had been just Caroline with a little jungle fever

Racist.

Joe F.

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:22:56 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

No matter how many times the Swiftboating of Kerry is proven
to be a pack of despicable lies some wingnuts will repeat it
as truth anyway.


Who said anything about Swiftboats? I am talking about the lies he
*testified* to, under oath, before Congress. I am talking about his
trip to Paris to secretly meet with the deligation from North Vie Nam
*while in uniform*. I am talking about his medals that he threw over
the fence. All of these are acts of a traitorous pig, and you praise
him simply because he is a liberal Democrat. If he was a Republican,
you would be on him like white on rice.

Dave