Oh, he's gotta be kidding...

salmobytes wrote in news:J8udncO-
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But it is interesting: when a republican presidential hopeful
openly admits he's not real strong on economics, that means he's not
particularly interesting in it, and also that he buys the
stock republican party economics propaganda:


Now he denies saying he was less than an economic expert.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/s...5292190&page=1

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On 3 Jul 2008 12:10:32 GMT, Scott Seidman
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salmobytes wrote in news:J8udncO-
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But it is interesting: when a republican presidential hopeful
openly admits he's not real strong on economics, that means he's not
particularly interesting in it, and also that he buys the
stock republican party economics propaganda:


Now he denies saying he was less than an economic expert.

He does?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/s...5292190&page=1

Lessee...first, you have the implied meaning of "not exactly an expert."
Fairness dictates an admission that such phrasing is at least somewhat
"loaded" and accuracy dictates an admission that it appears unlikely and
no available evidence indicate(s) that McCain (or Obama) is (are)
actually and literally an _economics expert(s)_. That said, let's look
at what was said:

"'You have admitted that you're not exactly an expert when it comes to
the economy,' Roberts began."

""I have not. I have not. I actually have not,' McCain interrupted."

The quotes used to "prove" McCain "admitted" he was "not exactly an
expert" in _economics_:

""The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I
should.'"

(Something an economics or any other expert might say and feel about the
field of their expertise - IAC, saying you don't understand something
"as well I should" doesn't translate to someone admitted they "are not
exactly an expert.")

"'I am not an expert on Wall Street. I am not an expert on some of this
stuff.'"

Trust me on this or don't, but there are lots of "experts on economics"
- economists - who don't understand "Wall Street," either. IAC,
admitting to not being an "expert on Wall Street" is not the same as
admitting to being "not exactly an expert" on economics or the economy
any more than admitting to not being an expert on deep-sea fishing is
the same as admitting or claiming anything about trout fishing or fly
fishing. And I'd offer that a fair percentage of the posters to and
even readers of ROFF would fall into such a category.

I'd offer that while it does the process good to bust these guys when
they do screw up, it does no good to try to "Michael Moore" them into
appearing to have done something wrong when they haven't. Plus, they're
politicians, there will be plenty enough to bust them on without
resorting to making **** up...

TC,
R

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:40:27 -0400, jeff miller
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:27:07 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


yup, in times like these, it's always best to go with the guy who claims
economics "isn't my strong suit".


Honesty. A terrrrrible virtue for a politician. No president is an
expert at all things. That is what his capinet/advisors are for.
What economic experience does "Loose Change" have. At least Mc has
more experience in leadership than a jr. senator that has been so for
only 143 days (his total time actually serving in the Senate).

Dave



uh...in a new statement this week, mccain, trying to distinguish
himself, said he knows and understands the economy (or some such
thing)... he's the typical washington politician, and he's old (in more
than just age) too. hell, if he was your man, you'd be claiming LC's 143
days in the washington cesspool was a virtue...one any conservative
would approve of - a devotion to less government and all that. g

jeff

Thus far, both seem equally well-versed about economics...and about as
equally well-versed about economics as they are about the surface of
Pluto...one need look no further than their silly-assed statements about
their ideas about fuel tax holidays and taxing "big oil companies" as
ways to reduce gasoline prices in the US for evidence of same...

TC,
R

wrote in message
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Thus far, both seem equally well-versed about economics...and about as
equally well-versed about economics as they are about the surface of
Pluto...one need look no further than their silly-assed statements about
their ideas about fuel tax holidays and taxing "big oil companies" as
ways to reduce gasoline prices in the US for evidence of same...


admittedly quite true.....gawd, I wish someone, sometime, running for
President would sell me on a pitch of::
" Look, I have common sense, and a reasonable lack of ideological zeal. I
can find, attract and hire talented wonks to actually figure out how to fix
some the crap going wrong around here. I'll try to do it without hosing you
in taxes for needless stuff, and work at explaining what we are doing and
thinking. I'm going to be an executive, not an all around know-it-all about
everything."
Wouldn't that be refreshing?
Tom

On Jul 3, 7:01*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
wrote in message

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Thus far, both seem equally well-versed about economics...and about as
equally well-versed about economics as they are about the surface of
Pluto...one need look no further than their silly-assed statements about
their ideas about fuel tax holidays and taxing "big oil companies" as
ways to reduce gasoline prices in the US for evidence of same...

admittedly quite true.....gawd, I wish someone, sometime, running for
President would sell me on a pitch of::
" Look, I have common sense, and a reasonable lack of ideological zeal. I
can find, attract and hire talented wonks to actually figure out how to fix
some the crap going wrong around here. I'll try to do it without hosing you
in taxes for needless stuff, and work at explaining what we are doing and
thinking. I'm going to be an executive, not an all around know-it-all about
everything."
Wouldn't that be refreshing?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom

Yep, especially that "lack of ideological zeal(.)" bit. Maybe get us
back in touch with our national origins as children of the
Enlightenment who value empirisicm, experimentation, tolerance and the
scientific method. But then we would have to purge and root out a lot
of Hamiltonian Federalists and Randists who have done so much damage
to our democratic institutions, our Constitution and the Bill of
Rights.

Dave

, wrote:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-fist-bumping/

This is supposed to be the guy snip snip more political drivel snip
" in connection with it...of course, if he had real stones, he'd have let
a few more black
folks and ladies in headscarfs be seen with him, too...

Sheesh,
R

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...bump-not-gone/

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From another post---to show my appreciation of this poster - Panzer:


This has something to do with fly fishing ????

FOAD

or at least post it in alt.who.cares

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Panzer
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Does this jerkoff rdean ever post on topic?
Luckily I killfiled him
But I see his posts reflecrted in other posts
Perhaps he will go to a political group and post his crap there.
Hiowever
He would probably make good fish bait


Fred