Well, now...

OK, do I post the obvious:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

or do I post the less-so:

She was back at the bar, showered, dressed, and halfway into drinks and
dinner when the ball finally hit the ground...after going straight over
the mound and somewhere WAY past the lights...

Seriously, with a couple of missteps, Palin, if she holds, may well have
outspeeched Obama in even his most ardent fans' dreams. At the very
least, Biden better not be sleeping.

Boys, and I use that term VERY loosely, we gots us a horserace,
R
....and I can hardly wait to hear the Tel slams...

On Sep 4, 11:53*am, wrote:
OK, do I post the obvious:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

or do I post the less-so:

She was back at the bar, showered, dressed, and halfway into drinks and
dinner when the ball finally hit the ground...after going straight over
the mound and somewhere WAY past the lights...

Seriously, with a couple of missteps, Palin, if she holds, may well have
outspeeched Obama in even his most ardent fans' dreams. *At the very
least, Biden better not be sleeping.

Boys, and I use that term VERY loosely, we gots us a horserace,
R
...and I can hardly wait to hear the Tel slams...


Yep, that Mark Salter can sure write a good speech.

I'm still waiting to hear more about how she stands on her own two
feet. Troopergate is still in the jurybox, as are a couple of other
character measurements. We'll see.....

But I agree.....good speech.

--riverman

On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:29:58 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

On Sep 4, 11:53*am, wrote:
OK, do I post the obvious:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

or do I post the less-so:

She was back at the bar, showered, dressed, and halfway into drinks and
dinner when the ball finally hit the ground...after going straight over
the mound and somewhere WAY past the lights...

Seriously, with a couple of missteps, Palin, if she holds, may well have
outspeeched Obama in even his most ardent fans' dreams. *At the very
least, Biden better not be sleeping.

Boys, and I use that term VERY loosely, we gots us a horserace,
R
...and I can hardly wait to hear the Tel slams...


Yep, that Mark Salter can sure write a good speech.

I found it particularly interesting that at least some outlets kept
showing the TelePrompTer - none did it, that I saw, to any Dems. FWIW,
one of the US network news departments did a story on Obama and the
prompter, showing that he relies heavily on it and needs it. Somewhat
surprisingly, McCain was shown to do _much_ better speaking without it.
It was odd, McCain without and Obama with sound similar, speaking-wise,
and the opposite is true, except Obama without actually sounds worse
than McCain with.

OTOH, if you're implying that she is a lightweight who can read a good
speech, I'd suggest really playing that up...if you are anti-Obama or
pro-McCain/Palin...

And lastly, Salter didn't write it, apparently, Matt Scully did, but I
don't think it'll matter who wrote it, all the folks that matter will
remember or care about is who delivered it and how.

I'm still waiting to hear more about how she stands on her own two
feet.

I don't think Axelrod and Co. are looking forward to that at all...but I
suspect all are gonna find out pretty quickly...

Troopergate is still in the jurybox,

That's probably dead and buried - at the end the day, the voters that
matter will see someone taking up for their sister against some asshole
who done her wrong...regardless of the truth...

as are a couple of other character measurements.

Yeah, there could be a whole rackfull of hanging shoes out there, but if
they don't dropping fast...

We'll see.....

But I agree.....good speech.

Yep, and I missed most Rudy's intro until after...from what I've seen,
his wife should have called him as he climbed up to speak and told him
to shut the flock up...

TC,
R



--riverman

wrote:
OK, do I post the obvious:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

or do I post the less-so:

She was back at the bar, showered, dressed, and halfway into drinks and
dinner when the ball finally hit the ground...after going straight over
the mound and somewhere WAY past the lights...

Seriously, with a couple of missteps, Palin, if she holds, may well have
outspeeched Obama in even his most ardent fans' dreams. At the very
least, Biden better not be sleeping.

Boys, and I use that term VERY loosely, we gots us a horserace,
R
...and I can hardly wait to hear the Tel slams...

a bit shrill...but well-delivered. of course, reports are it was written
entirely by others and she was taught how to deliver it in a 6+ hour
session. still, she had to stand up there and make it true...and i think
she did well in talking to her choir. she seems sturdy. i look forward
to seeing her without her puppetmasters...that will be the real test.
but, i agree...it's going to be interesting and close.

jeff (still...i missed the black leather boots...perhaps she has a tatoo
and a special piercing??)

On Sep 4, 6:07*am, jeff wrote:
wrote:
OK, do I post the obvious:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

or do I post the less-so:

She was back at the bar, showered, dressed, and halfway into drinks and
dinner when the ball finally hit the ground...after going straight over
the mound and somewhere WAY past the lights...

Seriously, with a couple of missteps, Palin, if she holds, may well have
outspeeched Obama in even his most ardent fans' dreams. *At the very
least, Biden better not be sleeping.

Boys, and I use that term VERY loosely, we gots us a horserace,
R
...and I can hardly wait to hear the Tel slams...

a bit shrill...but well-delivered. of course, reports are it was written
entirely by others and she was taught how to deliver it in a 6+ hour
session. still, she had to stand up there and make it true...and i think
she did well in talking to her choir. she seems sturdy. i look forward
to seeing her without her puppetmasters...that will be the real test.
but, i agree...it's going to be interesting and close.

jeff (still...i missed the black leather boots...perhaps she has a tatoo
and a special piercing??)

I'm not usually one to throw up the sexist card, but.....

Given that Obama's only reason for being nominated is his speech-
making
ability it feels odd to hear Palin denigrated for her speech-making
ability.

Full-disclosure, I didn't actually see/hear/read either Obama or
Palin's speeches,
I'm far more interested in their substance than how they can read from
a
teleprompter.
- Ken

" wrote in message
...

I'm far more interested in their substance than how they can read from
a teleprompter.

That IS their substance.

Wolfgang
from the "THIS is the planet you live on" desk.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:07:14 -0400, jeff
wrote:

wrote:
OK, do I post the obvious:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

or do I post the less-so:

She was back at the bar, showered, dressed, and halfway into drinks and
dinner when the ball finally hit the ground...after going straight over
the mound and somewhere WAY past the lights...

Seriously, with a couple of missteps, Palin, if she holds, may well have
outspeeched Obama in even his most ardent fans' dreams. At the very
least, Biden better not be sleeping.

Boys, and I use that term VERY loosely, we gots us a horserace,
R
...and I can hardly wait to hear the Tel slams...

a bit shrill...but well-delivered. of course, reports are it was written
entirely by others and she was taught how to deliver it in a 6+ hour
session. still, she had to stand up there and make it true...and i think
she did well in talking to her choir. she seems sturdy. i look forward
to seeing her without her puppetmasters...that will be the real test.
but, i agree...it's going to be interesting and close.

I think Obama supporters can and will do real damage to their candidate
with commentary even a little bit stronger than yours written
speeches and puppetmasters. Very few, if any, of Obama's big speeches
were much more than reading exercises. In fact, one could sub "Obama"
for "she" in your statement above and have it be just as accurate.

jeff (still...i missed the black leather boots...perhaps she has a tatoo
and a special piercing??)

One can only hope...where's Larry Flint when ya need him...?

TC,
R

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 06:27:25 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sep 4, 6:07*am, jeff wrote:
wrote:
OK, do I post the obvious:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

or do I post the less-so:

She was back at the bar, showered, dressed, and halfway into drinks and
dinner when the ball finally hit the ground...after going straight over
the mound and somewhere WAY past the lights...

Seriously, with a couple of missteps, Palin, if she holds, may well have
outspeeched Obama in even his most ardent fans' dreams. *At the very
least, Biden better not be sleeping.

Boys, and I use that term VERY loosely, we gots us a horserace,
R
...and I can hardly wait to hear the Tel slams...

a bit shrill...but well-delivered. of course, reports are it was written
entirely by others and she was taught how to deliver it in a 6+ hour
session. still, she had to stand up there and make it true...and i think
she did well in talking to her choir. she seems sturdy. i look forward
to seeing her without her puppetmasters...that will be the real test.
but, i agree...it's going to be interesting and close.

jeff (still...i missed the black leather boots...perhaps she has a tatoo
and a special piercing??)

I'm not usually one to throw up the sexist card, but.....

Given that Obama's only reason for being nominated is his speech-
making
ability it feels odd to hear Palin denigrated for her speech-making
ability.

Well, fair's fair - she's no Halle Berry...

Full-disclosure, I didn't actually see/hear/read either Obama or
Palin's speeches,
I'm far more interested in their substance than how they can read from
a
teleprompter.

Um...OK. I'm curious - do you prefer to base your
substance-of-the-candidate decision more on the spew from Rush, et al or
Huffingtonpost, et al...?

Full disclosure - I watched 'em both because I wanted to see first-hand
how they do rather than have someone tell me what I should think about
it.

youtube this helps,
R

- Ken

On Sep 4, 7:37*am, wrote:

She is on tape gushing over all the earmarked pork she got with the
help of Rep. Young (Indited) and Sen Stevens (On trial). And its a
matter of record that she did not turn back the $217 million pork pie
of Federal taxpayer money for the bridge to no-whe Fact, She kept
it and distributed to her own set of pork projects. Facts that the
vetting team did not get to the speech writing team in time to cut
from the speech. :

@)))))) What a TV ad that is going to make. Remember Richard, its not
only Texans who have trouble with that veracity thingy.

Dave

wrote:
On Sep 4, 7:37 am, wrote:

She is on tape gushing over all the earmarked pork she got with the
help of Rep. Young (Indited) and Sen Stevens (On trial). And its a
matter of record that she did not turn back the $217 million pork pie
of Federal taxpayer money for the bridge to no-whe Fact, She kept
it and distributed to her own set of pork projects. Facts that the
vetting team did not get to the speech writing team in time to cut
from the speech. :

@)))))) What a TV ad that is going to make. Remember Richard, its not
only Texans who have trouble with that veracity thingy.

Dave

....your inability to spell simple words does not help your veracity and
your rabid political BS is further proof that
education does not confer common sense. Those liberal profs apparently
poked a lot of bull**** in your mush brains.

Frank Sr.