Campfire talk

On Mar 17, 9:06*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
DaveS wrote:
Give it a rest

Your nose hair post is a new low. No ****. That whole bit was beyond
offensive.
It was just possibly the most disturbing undude-like post in ROFF
webbery.
Jebus man, what is next? How to wipe your ass? Pop a zit? What?
First you, then that bare assed **** up.
Ill write the rest off to folks just trying to make it go away ASAP

You want real old timer ****?
Here is one: putting on your shoes in the morning.
Want another? Watching stuff go to hell.
Want another? smiling while fools talk w/out smacking them.
Thats real old timer **** you'll need to learn how to do.

Now you know everything important that you will have to learn.
But pleeaassse, just leave your ****ing nose hairs alone
Earth Spirit put them there to keep the bull**** from sloshing up your
nose
But if you decide differently just don't talk about it. OK?
It drives folks away from ROFF.

Well said, fellow geezer. The only thing that drives more folks
away from roff than offensive personal hygiene threads is whiny
goddamn Kum Ba Yah threads.

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Ken Fortenberry- Hide quoted text -

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Godamnright Ken. Godamnright!
Dave

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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riverman wrote:
In contrast, the endless ad hominen attacks, political attacks,
strawmen arguments and personality attacks will (and have) driven off
many people.

Atrocious grammar notwithstanding, that sentence is just as true
today as it was ten years ago. You can whine about it if you want
but all the whining and Kum Ba Yahing in the world ain't gonna
change a damn thing.

--
Ken Fortenberry

.....campfires...kum ba bang...girls ate it up!

john

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
communications...

"riverman" wrote

There's nothing 'kum ba ya-ish' about it; people in real life who
deliberately poison conversation without cause are bullies and
assholes. And most folks just don't like bullies and assholes. Yet on
line, somehow its considered reasonable behavior. I don't get it, I
don't like it, and I don't want to participate in it.

--riverman

strange thing about my take on this is that i think the most mortal
damage is done by the vicious political wrangling, not the purely personal
vitriol. the latter is almost gamesmanship; silly, mostly, containing
some pretty humorous stuff, if, like myself, you simply make random
observations of the arguments. the former, however, is reality in print,
grim, and sure to make for permanent enemies.
of course, as ol rdean is want to say, ymmv.

yfitons
wayno(and i almost forgot--the family trashing is beyond the pale, imho.)


Family trashing...and I sat on your old back porch and listened to you tell
the stories your grandmother told you about Sherman coming through and
throwing dead animals in the well!!

....sigh...and my sister was married to George William Butler Sherman the
III.

But she divorced him, so can we still be friends?

By the way, Gary saw a History channel Episode that mention that very
fact....he thought enough of it to call me long distance...(free nights and
weekends)

john

On Mar 18, 3:20*am, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:
"riverman" wrote

There's nothing 'kum ba ya-ish' about it; people in real life who
deliberately poison conversation without cause are bullies and
assholes. And most folks just don't like bullies and assholes. Yet on
line, somehow its considered reasonable behavior. I don't get it, I
don't like it, and I don't want to participate in it.

--riverman

* * strange thing about my take on this is that i think the most mortal
damage is done by the vicious political wrangling, not the purely personal
vitriol. *the latter is almost gamesmanship; silly, mostly, containing some
pretty humorous stuff, if, like myself, you simply make random observations
of the arguments. *the former, however, is reality in print, grim, and sure
to make for permanent enemies.
* * of course, as ol rdean is want to say, ymmv.


Well and accurately spoken, mfitons.

God, I miss Cyli these days....

--riverman

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:20:52 -0400, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:


"riverman" wrote

There's nothing 'kum ba ya-ish' about it; people in real life who
deliberately poison conversation without cause are bullies and
assholes. And most folks just don't like bullies and assholes. Yet on
line, somehow its considered reasonable behavior. I don't get it, I
don't like it, and I don't want to participate in it.

--riverman

strange thing about my take on this is that i think the most mortal
damage is done by the vicious political wrangling,

IOW, it's all Clinton's fault...why do you hate America?

not the purely personal vitriol.

IMO, that's an odd perspective - that a person/friendship (either virtual or
real-world) would be "mortally damaged" because someone called their preferred
candidate de jour an asshole or whatever, but wouldn't be bothered much if
someone called _them_ an asshole or whatever (assuming both to be expressions of
true feelings).

the latter is almost gamesmanship; silly, mostly, containing some
pretty humorous stuff, if, like myself, you simply make random observations
of the arguments. the former, however, is reality in print, grim, and sure
to make for permanent enemies.

I'd offer that anyone who takes politics or the discussion thereof too
seriously, especially in such a "place" as ROFF, ought not to be discussing them
and probably, is better off from a personal mental health standpoint doing as
little thinking about them as they possibly can
..
of course, as ol rdean is want to say, ymmv.

Um - YMMV, as I is want to say...

yfitons
wayno(and i almost forgot--the family trashing is beyond the pale, imho.)

I guess I've missed most of that as I haven't seen much of it, but yeah, what
little I have seen is, at least, beyond the pale.

YFCOTGC,
R

"asadi" wrote

Family trashing...and I sat on your old back porch and listened to you
tell the stories your grandmother told you about Sherman coming through
and throwing dead animals in the well!!

actually, john, it was my great-grandmother, and the yankee ******* was
*stoneman*, not sherman.
any way you call it, you still have friends in the old north state.

among them,
yfitons
wayno

wrote

wayno wrote:
strange thing about my take on this is that i think the most mortal
damage is done by the vicious political wrangling,

IOW, it's all Clinton's fault...why do you hate America?

not the purely personal vitriol.

IMO, that's an odd perspective - that a person/friendship (either virtual
or
real-world) would be "mortally damaged" because someone called their
preferred
candidate de jour an asshole or whatever, but wouldn't be bothered much if
someone called _them_ an asshole or whatever (assuming both to be
expressions of
true feelings).

well, richard, i guess my point (not very well put, i admit) is that the
personal stuff is mostly *not* true feelings. fr'instance, my cousin and i
constantly rib each other about our personal glitches, failures, and
foolishness, but we have the strongest male relationship i could imagine.
on the other hand, he and i differ strongly about politics, and have
learned to stay clear of such matters if we care to remain cordial.

the latter is almost gamesmanship; silly, mostly, containing some
pretty humorous stuff, if, like myself, you simply make random
observations
of the arguments. the former, however, is reality in print, grim, and
sure
to make for permanent enemies.

I'd offer that anyone who takes politics or the discussion thereof too
seriously, especially in such a "place" as ROFF, ought not to be
discussing them
and probably, is better off from a personal mental health standpoint doing
as
little thinking about them as they possibly can

my approach to the situation, exactly.
.
of course, as ol rdean is want to say, ymmv.

Um - YMMV, as I is want to say...

yfitons
wayno(and i almost forgot--the family trashing is beyond the pale, imho.)

I guess I've missed most of that as I haven't seen much of it, but yeah,
what
little I have seen is, at least, beyond the pale.

YFCOTGC,
R

On Mar 17, 11:42*am, riverman wrote:
And most folks just don't like bullies and assholes. Yet on
line, somehow its considered reasonable behavior. I don't get it, I
don't like it, and I don't want to participate in it.

--riverman

I concur, and I should have simply ceased long ago.............
However, one does not always do the sensible thing.

TL
MC