OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gun purchase/ownership?

T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:

Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:

Your opinion?

TMT

If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime (naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.

Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!

With gun racks.

TL

Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:

T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:

Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:

Your opinion?

TMT

If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime (naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.

Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!

With gun racks.

TL

Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?

60,000 deaths/year from on the road traffic accidents. How many from
LEGAL use of firearms again? I forgot your *statistic.*

Nick

Nicholas wrote in
:

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:



Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?

60,000 deaths/year from on the road traffic accidents. How many from
LEGAL use of firearms again? I forgot your *statistic.*

Nick


Actually annual highway deaths have been around 42,000 last 5 years
although last year was around 37,000 due to the bush depression. But it's
still much higher than the 32,000 annual gun deaths - and half of those are
suicides and shouldn't count.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:

T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:

Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:

Your opinion?

TMT

If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime (naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.

Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!

With gun racks.

TL

Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?


Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.

Gunner

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product*
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu
*

On Mar 28, 2:53*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day





wrote:
T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:

Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:

Your opinion?

TMT

If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime (naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.

Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!

*With gun racks.

TL

Guns can kill the same way that cars can. *Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?

Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.

Gunner

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product*
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu
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Good lord, how can anyone NOT love usenet? How can anyone not marvel
that every maladjusted and intellectually and morally challenged
cockroach in the world has the capability and the right to proclaim
itself to the world AND labor manfully to maintain the peculiar
hallucination that it is impressing every illiterate thing that
encounters its blithering and maintains the resolve and the abililty
to pretend to understand the nonsense with which it is being bombarded
and have a withering counter?

As to the question in the header, it would probably be more fruitful
to speculate on whether passing a gun test should be a requirement for
drug purchase and ownership.

g.
who notes in passing that natural laws don't change......you STILL
gotta explain the simplest things to most people.....and they STILL
don't get it.

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" wrote in
.70:

Nicholas wrote in
:

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:



Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?

60,000 deaths/year from on the road traffic accidents. How many from
LEGAL use of firearms again? I forgot your *statistic.*

Nick


Actually annual highway deaths have been around 42,000 last 5 years
although last year was around 37,000 due to the bush depression. But
it's still much higher than the 32,000 annual gun deaths - and half of
those are suicides and shouldn't count.



Suicides, by definition have at least one willing participant.

--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

If you can read this......thank a teacher and your school system.
If it is in English.......thank a vet and the Border Patrol.

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:33:19 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" wrote in
. 3.70:

Nicholas wrote in
:

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:



Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?

60,000 deaths/year from on the road traffic accidents. How many from
LEGAL use of firearms again? I forgot your *statistic.*

Nick


Actually annual highway deaths have been around 42,000 last 5 years
although last year was around 37,000 due to the bush depression. But
it's still much higher than the 32,000 annual gun deaths - and half of
those are suicides and shouldn't count.



Suicides, by definition have at least one willing participant.

FWIW, if you don't realize it, you (and any who respond without trimming the
headers) are cross-posting to a number of unrelated groups. If you do realize
it, um, well...carry on, I guess...

HTH

wrote in
:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:33:19 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" wrote
in .70:

Nicholas wrote in
:

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:



Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations
of both to the same standards?

60,000 deaths/year from on the road traffic accidents. How many
from LEGAL use of firearms again? I forgot your *statistic.*

Nick


Actually annual highway deaths have been around 42,000 last 5 years
although last year was around 37,000 due to the bush depression. But
it's still much higher than the 32,000 annual gun deaths - and half
of those are suicides and shouldn't count.



Suicides, by definition have at least one willing participant.

FWIW, if you don't realize it, you (and any who respond without
trimming the headers) are cross-posting to a number of unrelated
groups. If you do realize it, um, well...carry on, I guess...

I don't crosspost. I do, however respond to posts I find in
talk.politics.guns. I have no control over those folks, but I do intend
for my comment to reach the poster I am responding to even though I have
no idea which forum *they* crossposted from. It really is a difference.


--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

If you can read this......thank a teacher and your school system.
If it is in English.......thank a vet and the Border Patrol.

On Mar 28, 7:04*pm, "RD (The Sandman)" rdsandman(spamlock)
@comcast.net wrote:
wrote :





On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:33:19 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" wrote
68.3.70:

Nicholas wrote in
:

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:

Guns can kill the same way that cars can. *Why not hold operations
of both to the same standards?

60,000 deaths/year from on the road traffic accidents. *How many
from LEGAL use of firearms again? *I forgot your *statistic.*

Nick

Actually annual highway deaths have been around 42,000 last 5 years
although last year was around 37,000 due to the bush depression. But
it's still much higher than the 32,000 annual gun deaths - and half
of those are suicides and shouldn't count.

Suicides, by definition have at least one willing participant.

FWIW, if you don't realize it, you (and any who respond without
trimming the headers) are cross-posting to a number of unrelated
groups. *If you do realize it, um, well...carry on, I guess...

I don't crosspost. *I do, however respond to posts I find in
talk.politics.guns. *I have no control over those folks, but I do intend
for my comment to reach the poster I am responding to even though I have
no idea which forum *they* crossposted from. *It really is a difference..

--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

If you can read this......thank a teacher and your school system.
If it is in English.......thank a vet and the Border Patrol.- Hide quoted text -


If this is in English......um......shouldn't you already know that?

giles
who is often forced to wonder, what DO they teach in the schools these
days?

On Mar 28, 8:44*pm, Strabo wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:

T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:

Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:

Your opinion?

TMT

If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime (naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.
Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!

*With gun racks.

TL
Guns can kill the same way that cars can. *Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?

Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.

Of course it is. It's just not an enumerated Right.

83. There. Now it is.


Gunner

Ooh! You make me wet.

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu- Hide quoted text -

A lot of people have read that crap for a long, long time. Not all
that many are eager to advertise their ignorance of literature,
philosophy, law, sociology, theology, economics, military strategy and
tactics, morality, history, and their own culture by quoting it.

giles
who notes that these boys are, contrary to any reasonable expectation,
even dumber than our own home grown morons..