OK, so this time, I'm smirking a bit...

Harold and Kumar Go To The White Cas...er, House...um, well, Kumar's probably
not going back to "House" and Harold is not going...yet...

Kal "Kumar" Penn, lately of "House," is now working for the Obama
Administration...thankfully, it's not as senior advisor to Timmy...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...040800950.html

*SMIRK*
R

wrote:
Harold and Kumar Go To The White Cas...er, House...um, well, Kumar's probably
not going back to "House" and Harold is not going...yet...

Kal "Kumar" Penn, lately of "House," is now working for the Obama
Administration...thankfully, it's not as senior advisor to Timmy...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...040800950.html

*SMIRK*

The guy gives up a huge Hollywood salary and puts a highly
successful acting career on hold to take a low paying job
as a public servant and you *SMIRK* ? Well, doesn't that
just speak volumes.

Why do you hate America so much ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
The guy gives up a huge Hollywood salary and puts a highly
successful acting career on hold to take a low paying job
as a public servant and you *SMIRK* ? Well, doesn't that
just speak volumes.

while Ken's evaluation of his acting talent and career arc might be a bit
over the top, I get the same overall impression. What's to *smirk* about?
Tom

On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:09:23 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
.. .
The guy gives up a huge Hollywood salary and puts a highly
successful acting career on hold to take a low paying job
as a public servant and you *SMIRK* ? Well, doesn't that
just speak volumes.

while Ken's evaluation of his acting talent and career arc might be a bit
over the top, I get the same overall impression. What's to *smirk* about?
Tom

Hmmm...first, taking you two quasi-literally for just a second, he ain't exactly
Burton or Olivier, or even Brad Pitt or Owen Wilson. Also, depending on his
exact title, he ain't exactly making minimum wage in a DR to White House - he
could well be making 100-150K plus benefits, perqs, etc., etc. - granted, not a
"huge Hollywood salary," but it ain't washing windshields for spare change,
either.

As to Kalpin/"Kal Penn" himself, if he were a Danica McKellar type and the
position was as an education advocate, fair enough - hell, even he were Bono and
was appointed to the President's Advisory Board on Wearing Faggish Sunglassses
At Inappropriate Times - but this guy (and I've heard various versions as to
whether he even was graduated with a BA - some saying yes, some no) was a film
student, with (again, AFAIK) no serious work experience beyond acting and now he
is, in Obama's own words, helping keep "the front door of the White House"...

Long story short, this is another example of Obama's promised change, which had
real potential (at least as real as "real" is in DC) gone native. What's next,
Tommy Chong as "Drug Czar?"

He talked the talk, had the mandate to walk the talk, and as I feared, he's in,
and he wants to discuss the walking, modify the talking, and all in all, dance
around the discussing of how he can walk and chew gum...bull**** - he either
needs to step up and lead, damn the torpedoes, or scoot his ass off to the
sidelines...and Kumar Goes To The White House ain't gonna do it, real-world...

HTH,
R

HTH,
R
...."...you're doing one heck of a job, Penseter..."...

On Apr 8, 9:36*pm, wrote:

Here we are, less that 100 days out and Richard, you are batting,
what? about .87. Wow. Hardly missed a beat. Most days something new.
Obama picked his nose wrong. Obama appointed the wrong person. etc
etc.

Recession? Obama's not handling it right.
What do you think of Obama's choice of dog? We are all ears.
When are we going to get your take on Michelle's upper arm strength?
How about Obama's choice of ties?

This day after day **** is creepy. But I think I may understand it
yet. See, year after year, you defended tooth and nail a man in active
contention for the "worst President in history" title. You slaved in
that vineyard, with some of the most bizarre reasoning ever seen on
this site. And how were you rewarded? With incompetence, theivery,
corruption and bad ju ju. But still you toiled on. Oh on occasion you
denied you cared. But you did care. And so for two full terms G.W.Bush
and you, Cheney and you, Dennis and Tommy and you, brothers in the
cause. Wrong on EVERY prediction, WRONG on every choice. Not wrong via
debate; Wrong by virtue of fact. Never could get a break but . . .
Faithful till the end.

Not a pretty sight to see an obviously intelligent man, who so loved
this unrewarding and bankrupt political team, to be so committed that
he prostrated himself in abject loyalty in the face of incompetence
and corruption. It must have been really difficult.

But happy days are here. Now your team can go back to what they are
good at; harassment. I watched Hannity last night. What a martinet.
But it gave me an insight into what Obama evokes in wingnuts; Clearly,
Obama's superior intelligence, leadership, and masterful speaking
style just drives folks of the bankrupt persuasion crazy. Change is
what America voted for and change is what is happening.

Dave

wrote in message
...
Long story short, this is another example of Obama's promised change

in a very real way, it may be. The upside of the Obama victory, and the
folks who propelled it, is an interest in public service by folks outside
the usual bureaucracy. As a more minor example, I have a friend from the
campaign who is so fired up by the idea of service, that he is going to
leave his IT job to run for Prothonotory in Berks County. Roughly, a 60% pay
drop to do so, but that is how Obama affected folks, insofar as a new
dedication to public service. And, getting new blood into the area of public
service is among many changes sorely needed. So, once again, smirk
away......I really think you are determined to miss the point. Change is
happening out there, but, it may not look like what you imagine change to
look like.
Tom

On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:34:31 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
Long story short, this is another example of Obama's promised change

in a very real way, it may be. The upside of the Obama victory, and the
folks who propelled it, is an interest in public service by folks outside
the usual bureaucracy. As a more minor example, I have a friend from the
campaign who is so fired up by the idea of service, that he is going to
leave his IT job to run for Prothonotory in Berks County. Roughly, a 60% pay
drop to do so, but that is how Obama affected folks, insofar as a new
dedication to public service. And, getting new blood into the area of public
service is among many changes sorely needed. So, once again, smirk
away......I really think you are determined to miss the point. Change is
happening out there, but, it may not look like what you imagine change to
look like.
Tom

Ah, OK...so as long as intentions are basically good, then all's well. By this
logic, anyone who wishes to offer the least criticism for, as an example,
Michael Brown and/or George Bush, must prove to an, um, metaphysical certainty
that they had bad intentions for every factor that would affect that criticism
or have that critique voided by the "but they didn't INTEND..." rebuttal...

IAC, your anecdote about the IT guy brings up two much more important points,
the first somewhat-expressed by that old, er, "cunard" - the road to hell is
paved with good attentions. I have no idea what actual legal duties the
Prothonotary in BC has, but if it does, I don't see how, generally-speaking, a
person in an "IT job" would have legal training to qualify them for the position
over, say, a notary (a "civil attorney" type notary, not a bank teller with a
stamp and a pen), lawyer, paralegal, legal secretary, etc. Would you advocate
one widely regarded as a truly skilled carpenter being appointed Surgeon
General, or a skilled surgeon being appointed Treasury Secretary...well, OK, so
on that last one, there would be a fair chance that it would be an improvement,
but still....

That brings us to the second point - this civic-minded IT guy isn't being
appointed, he's having to run, and if the people he intends to serve want him to
serve regardless of his qualifications, then so be it.

HTH,
R

wrote:
"Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
The guy gives up a huge Hollywood salary and puts a highly
successful acting career on hold to take a low paying job
as a public servant and you *SMIRK* ? Well, doesn't that
just speak volumes.
while Ken's evaluation of his acting talent and career arc might be a bit
over the top, I get the same overall impression. What's to *smirk* about?

Hmmm...first, taking you two quasi-literally for just a second, he ain't exactly
Burton or Olivier, or even Brad Pitt or Owen Wilson. Also, depending on his
exact title, he ain't exactly making minimum wage in a DR to White House - he
could well be making 100-150K plus benefits, perqs, etc., etc. - granted, not a
"huge Hollywood salary," but it ain't washing windshields for spare change,
either.

As to Kalpin/"Kal Penn" himself, if he were a Danica McKellar type and the
position was as an education advocate, fair enough - hell, even he were Bono and
was appointed to the President's Advisory Board on Wearing Faggish Sunglassses
At Inappropriate Times - but this guy (and I've heard various versions as to
whether he even was graduated with a BA - some saying yes, some no) was a film
student, with (again, AFAIK) no serious work experience beyond acting and now he
is, in Obama's own words, helping keep "the front door of the White House"...

Long story short, ...
more drivel snipped

What leads you to believe that the guy is not qualified to be
an associate director in the public liaison office ? Besides
the vibrating antenna on your tinfoil hood ?

Like I said, you're just beancounter with a better vocabulary.
Every day it's a new smirk, a new snicker, some new proof that
Obama is a screwup and that electing him was a mistake. And
this from the guy who assured us that Shrub is actually a
pretty smart fellow and Sarah Palin's academic credentials are
every bit as impressive as Obama's.

After eight long years of rule by a party whose core tenet is
that government is incompetent (and who worked hard to prove it),
the smart folks are back in Washington. Smart folks are now
encouraged to pursue public service instead of being told that
public service is for the shmucks and losers.

Well, on this planet at least. I wouldn't know about things on
your planet.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:00:03 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

On Apr 8, 9:36*pm, wrote:

Here we are, less that 100 days out and Richard, you are batting,
what? about .87. Wow. Hardly missed a beat. Most days something new.
Obama picked his nose wrong. Obama appointed the wrong person. etc
etc.

Recession? Obama's not handling it right.
What do you think of Obama's choice of dog? We are all ears.
When are we going to get your take on Michelle's upper arm strength?
How about Obama's choice of ties?

I think you're much more suited to that type of critique. In fact, I'd go so
far as to say that you and Beanie are perfectly suited to engage in a
"Point/Counterpoint" type of thing on such weighty matters as Obama's snot,
ties, and pets...

This day after day **** is creepy. But I think I may understand it
yet. See, year after year, you defended tooth and nail a man in active
contention for the "worst President in history" title. You slaved in
that vineyard, with some of the most bizarre reasoning ever seen on
this site.

Wow, I did? Damndest thing, but I cannot remember ever typing or uttering
anything that might even be twisted into suggesting that I thought Bush was
anything other than, at best, an average POTUS of slightly above-average
intelligence.

And how were you rewarded? With incompetence, theivery,
corruption and bad ju ju.

Oh, wait - which of the last 44, including this one, are you talking about...?

But still you toiled on. Oh on occasion you denied you cared. But you did care.
And so for two full terms G.W.Bush and you, Cheney and you, Dennis and Tommy
and you, brothers in the cause.

Ah, OK, so it is Bush...

Wrong on EVERY prediction, WRONG on every choice. Not wrong via
debate; Wrong by virtue of fact. Never could get a break but . . .
Faithful till the end.

Ya gotta love your obviously-blind hypocrisy...

Not a pretty sight to see an obviously intelligent man, who so loved
this unrewarding and bankrupt political team, to be so committed that
he prostrated himself in abject loyalty in the face of incompetence
and corruption. It must have been really difficult.

Not at all...in fact, one would be correct in saying that I've dealt with it as
if it never even happened...

But happy days are here.

Absolutely - you jumped the shark many years ago...

Now your team can go back to what they are good at; harassment.
I watched Hannity last night.

I didn't - it was sorta like, well, every other night he's on...um, you do mean
on TV, right...?

What a martinet.

Um, a "martinet," Gracie? Hang on, you don't actually mean to say "martian" or
"maraschino" or "canard a l'orange" or something, do you...?

But it gave me an insight into what Obama evokes in wingnuts; Clearly,
Obama's superior intelligence, leadership, and masterful speaking
style

Hey, I've acknowledged the latter (at least insofar as his speech-making
ability) since he first came upon the scene...thus far, however, the jury is
still out on the former two...and I particularly note that you, like many other
blind devotees, never brag about his alleged common sense...

just drives folks of the bankrupt persuasion crazy. Change is
what America voted for and change is what is happening.

Nope. "America" didn't vote for jack ****, but what most of those in the US who
voted for "change" really voted for was getting their own way, just like most of
those who voted for McCain, Bush (in 2000, not 2004), Kerry, Gore, Clinton (in
92, not 96), etc., etc., etc.

Dave

HTH,
R

On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:25:29 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
"Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
The guy gives up a huge Hollywood salary and puts a highly
successful acting career on hold to take a low paying job
as a public servant and you *SMIRK* ? Well, doesn't that
just speak volumes.
while Ken's evaluation of his acting talent and career arc might be a bit
over the top, I get the same overall impression. What's to *smirk* about?

Hmmm...first, taking you two quasi-literally for just a second, he ain't exactly
Burton or Olivier, or even Brad Pitt or Owen Wilson. Also, depending on his
exact title, he ain't exactly making minimum wage in a DR to White House - he
could well be making 100-150K plus benefits, perqs, etc., etc. - granted, not a
"huge Hollywood salary," but it ain't washing windshields for spare change,
either.

As to Kalpin/"Kal Penn" himself, if he were a Danica McKellar type and the
position was as an education advocate, fair enough - hell, even he were Bono and
was appointed to the President's Advisory Board on Wearing Faggish Sunglassses
At Inappropriate Times - but this guy (and I've heard various versions as to
whether he even was graduated with a BA - some saying yes, some no) was a film
student, with (again, AFAIK) no serious work experience beyond acting and now he
is, in Obama's own words, helping keep "the front door of the White House"...

Long story short, ...
more drivel snipped

What leads you to believe that the guy is not qualified to be
an associate director in the public liaison office ?

What leads you to believe he is...? Here's a rhetorical question for you - what
you have said if Bush (or more likely, someone had recommended to him as a
political move) had appointed someone with such a resume to such a post?

Besides
the vibrating antenna on your tinfoil hood ?

Like I said, you're just beancounter with a better vocabulary.
Every day it's a new smirk, a new snicker, some new proof that
Obama is a screwup and that electing him was a mistake.

Nope. It still remains to be seen what kind of POTUS he'll be, but yeah, thus
far, he does look every bit the rank amateur he is.

And this from the guy who assured us that Shrub is actually a
pretty smart fellow and Sarah Palin's academic credentials are
every bit as impressive as Obama's.

Er, no. What I said was, generally, that comparing resume to resume, Palin's
resume made her just as qualified as Obama. I don't recall saying much about
Palin's education (I don't even recall what it is beyond, IIRC, several so-so
schools to eke out a so-so degree) - I'd agree that Obama's academic
credentials exceed Palin's in all manner (even including time).

After eight long years of rule by a party whose core tenet is
that government is incompetent (and who worked hard to prove it),
the smart folks are back in Washington. Smart folks are now
encouraged to pursue public service instead of being told that
public service is for the shmucks and losers

Yet again, you show you don't know, and therefore, don't understand, the
difference between "intelligence" and "smart." Bush is, from an objective
standpoint, of above-average intelligence, and there's not much evidence that
"smart people" are in Washington, back or otherwise...much like Urbana, it
seems...

HTH,
R