rod/line weight

If it is as crucial as I have been led to believe that the line weight
matches the rod weight, what weight line does one use if a rod described as
a "4/5" weight?

Dan

Dan wrote:
If it is as crucial as I have been led to believe that the line weight
matches the rod weight, what weight line does one use if a rod described as
a "4/5" weight?

4DT, 5WF.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Dan, the line weight does, indeed, need to match the rod. Most rods are
made to handle a line weight one above or one below the noted rod weight.
Given today's "fast" or stiffer rods, most rods tend to handle a line weight
one over quite well, if not better than that listed on the rod. A 4/5 line
weight rod should handle a 4 weight line (probably a bit stiff) and a 5
weight line and a good possibility a 6 weight line. If you use floating
lines you have more flexibility than using sinking lines, sink-tip lines, or
shooting heads. Castability can change when "over-lining" a rod with these
weights more so than with floating lines. Depending on manufacturer, I
would venture to say you would probably do better with a 5 weight line on
your rod.
--
Wayne
To Fish is Human...To Release Divine!

"Dan" lose wrote in message
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If it is as crucial as I have been led to believe that the line weight
matches the rod weight, what weight line does one use if a rod described
as
a "4/5" weight?

Dan

Dan wrote:

If it is as crucial as I have been led to believe that the line weight
matches the rod weight, what weight line does one use if a rod described as
a "4/5" weight?

FFing ain't brain surgery; there's not a lot about it that is
'crucial'.

Still, one common answer to your question (and one a number of rod
makers advise) is "either a DT4 or a WF5". In truth, most rods will
cast well--or reasonably well--more than a single line weight. A rod
rated 4/5, *if* correctly rated (some aren't), would probably cast
either a 4-weight or a 5-weight line fairly well. It is quite possible,
though, that it would cast one better than the other, so I'd try both on
it and see which I thought it handled better.

That said, some rods are more adaptable to a range of line weights than
others are. Personal preference and casting style also play a role. I
might think a given 4/5 rod casts best with a DT4; another person might
prefer a WF4 on it; a third person might cast it best with WF5.

JR

Any thing from a 3 to a 6 Usually. Probably 6 will be best since most rods are
marked light due to people wanting "fast" rods. If your casting ability is as
good as mine, you wont be able to tell the difference between a 4 and a 5. If
you really can tell the difference, I'd suggest doing a search on ' "common
Cents" fly rod'. It's a system for determining rod weight based on deflection
curves using various weights; in this case pennies are used. Hence the name.
I like to try various weight lines and use what feels the best to me. Try the
rod at the distance you'll be fishing, not the "look at me"" long distances.

Lou T


what weight line does one use if a rod described as
a "4/5" weight?

Hi Dan,

As usual all the responses here are very good and very complete.

A high percentage of the time with a fly rod rated for two line sizes, it
would be best with the heavier size. In the past I have seen some really
soft rods that were better with the lower number.

The old adage as stated here in other excellent posts is "DT4/WF5".

Many choose DT lines for shorter distances, mending , roll casting,
short-line nymphing and accuracy.

For open water, most use WF lines. A fact is that the best selling fly line
is a WF5F. Next is a WF6F. I am not promoting anything here, just stating
industry "sell through" facts.

A "double taper" line "loads" (feels heavier) a rod better than a "weight
forward" line at short distances because it's front taper in shorter. Most
DT trout line front tapers are ~8' long and weight forward trout line front
tapers are 10' to 12'. This means that with a DT line you get more belly out
beyond the tip of the rod adding more weight.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA
www.kiene.com

"Dan" lose wrote in message
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If it is as crucial as I have been led to believe that the line weight
matches the rod weight, what weight line does one use if a rod described
as
a "4/5" weight?

Dan

Something reasonably new are these "half-size heavier" weight forward
floating fly lines.

SA/Mastery makes the "GPX" series and Rio makes the "Rio Grand" that come
only in weight forward floating lines and are about a half size heavier than
the normal weight forward lines.

For example you might think of these as a "WF 5.5 F".

Today this is what we put on most faster rods and it has been working very
well for us.

It is also good for the new fly casters because they can feel the rod load
better.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA
www.kiene.com













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"Dan" lose wrote in message
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If it is as crucial as I have been led to believe that the line weight
matches the rod weight, what weight line does one use if a rod described
as
a "4/5" weight?

Dan

Line weights are determined by the weight of the first 35' of the line.
Rods are designed to load with most of this line out of the guides. However
a lot of your fishing is with less than 35' of line outside of the guides.
If the majority of your fishing is with 20 or 25' of line out, you might
want to get a heavier line so that this shorter section will come closer to
the wieght that the rod is designed for.

"Bill Kiene" wrote in message
m...
Something reasonably new are these "half-size heavier" weight forward
floating fly lines.

SA/Mastery makes the "GPX" series and Rio makes the "Rio Grand" that come
only in weight forward floating lines and are about a half size heavier
than
the normal weight forward lines.

For example you might think of these as a "WF 5.5 F".

Today this is what we put on most faster rods and it has been working very
well for us.

It is also good for the new fly casters because they can feel the rod load
better.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA
www.kiene.com













www.kiene.com







www.kiene.com

"Dan" lose wrote in message
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If it is as crucial as I have been led to believe that the line weight
matches the rod weight, what weight line does one use if a rod described
as
a "4/5" weight?

Dan






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Hello SF,

That is excellent information.

Thanks.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA
www.kiene.com

"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
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Line weights are determined by the weight of the first 35' of the line.
Rods are designed to load with most of this line out of the guides.
However
a lot of your fishing is with less than 35' of line outside of the guides.
If the majority of your fishing is with 20 or 25' of line out, you might
want to get a heavier line so that this shorter section will come closer
to
the wieght that the rod is designed for.

"Bill Kiene" wrote in message
m...
Something reasonably new are these "half-size heavier" weight forward
floating fly lines.

SA/Mastery makes the "GPX" series and Rio makes the "Rio Grand" that
come
only in weight forward floating lines and are about a half size heavier
than
the normal weight forward lines.

For example you might think of these as a "WF 5.5 F".

Today this is what we put on most faster rods and it has been working
very
well for us.

It is also good for the new fly casters because they can feel the rod
load
better.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA
www.kiene.com

"Dan" lose wrote in message
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If it is as crucial as I have been led to believe that the line weight
matches the rod weight, what weight line does one use if a rod
described
as
a "4/5" weight?

Dan






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