flyfishing near st. louis

And I mean *anywhere* near St. Louis! Oh, this is so horrible. If I have
to move there . . . where are the little brookie streams? Are there any
mountains there? Oh, god, oh, god. Someone please say something
encouraging.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 00:17:37 GMT, "kyle - mr rapidan" kylemrrapidan
wrote:

And I mean *anywhere* near St. Louis! Oh, this is so horrible. If I have
to move there . . . where are the little brookie streams? Are there any
mountains there? Oh, god, oh, god. Someone please say something
encouraging.

Mark Twain National Forest has a lot of acreage just south and east of
St. Louis. Maybe an hour or two of driving. They have trout. I
don't know about brookies. It's in relatively hilly country. Some
people call the Ozarks mountains. You might, too.

Was any of that encouraging?
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

"kyle - mr rapidan" kylemrrapidan wrote in message
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And I mean *anywhere* near St. Louis! Oh, this is so horrible. If I have
to move there . . . where are the little brookie streams? Are there any
mountains there? Oh, god, oh, god. Someone please say something
encouraging.

Welcome to St Louis! You have a pretty fair chance of liking it here.

I work in downtown St Louis and live about 20 miles west. I can be in a wild
trout stream, rigged up and fishing, inside of an hour.

Southern Missouri is filled with enormous springs - the size of houses - out
of which water flows at a constant temperature of about 55 - 57 degrees,
thereby creating instant rivers. The railroads that headed west from St
Louis brought trout back from the west and dumped them out of trains into
those streams all over the Missouri Ozarks. A number of streams are
designated "wild trout" streams, meaning that they are not stocked. There
are also numerous stocked streams with different levels of regulation for
different fishing experiences. Finally, there are "Trout Parks" that are
very heavily stocked streams attractive mainly to meat hunters, although
they also have fly-fishing zones also that can, surprisingly, be lots of fun
to fish.

And, of course, St Louis has two fine fly fishing shops: Tom Hargrove's and
Feathercraft. There are others that I have not visited.

Check out the following for more info:

http://teosinte2.agron.missouri.edu/flyfishing//

http://www.ozarkflyfishers.org/

http://www.ozarkchronicles.com/

Bob

"kyle - mr rapidan" kylemrrapidan wrote in message
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And I mean *anywhere* near St. Louis! Oh, this is so horrible. If I have
to move there . . . where are the little brookie streams? Are there any
mountains there? Oh, god, oh, god. Someone please say something
encouraging.


There's a great fly shop in St. Louis called T. Hargrove's.

There is fishing to be had, a couple of spring creeks that years ago were
stocked with pure strain mcloud rainbows, gurasic park type private water,
the north fork of the white river in ozark all come to mind. And then there
are the trout parks and crossing the border to fish the tailwaters in
Arkansas.

If you want access to a bunch of St. Louis based folks go to the
www.troutbums.com/forums and post something in the fishhead clubhouse

"kyle - mr rapidan" kylemrrapidan wrote in message
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And I mean *anywhere* near St. Louis! Oh, this is so horrible. If I have
to move there . . . where are the little brookie streams? Are there any
mountains there? Oh, god, oh, god. Someone please say something
encouraging.


BTW, here are a few photos of Missouri fly fishing . . .

http://webpages.charter.net/rwpatton...y/Missouri.htm

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:15:00 -0600, lid wrote:



Mark Twain National Forest has a lot of acreage just south and east of
St. Louis.

West. West. West. Not east. West.
Sorry.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

Kyle:

I moved from St. Louis to Memphis seven years ago gasp. I dream of going
back to a place as horrible for flyfishing as St. Louis. It sure beats
Memphis. In fact, with the exception of barbeque, blues, bible thumpers,
just about everything in St. Louis is better than in Memphis. Despite all
its (many) problems, in my opinion, St. Louis is one of the great American
cities; a great place to live- and I'm not even from there.

Memphis Jim
(The Pacific Northwest still looks like where me and the doctor will end up)


"kyle - mr rapidan" kylemrrapidan wrote in message
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And I mean *anywhere* near St. Louis! Oh, this is so horrible. If I have
to move there . . . where are the little brookie streams? Are there any
mountains there? Oh, god, oh, god. Someone please say something
encouraging.

"Memphis Jim" wrote in message
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Kyle:

I moved from St. Louis to Memphis seven years ago gasp. I dream of
going
back to a place as horrible for flyfishing as St. Louis. It sure beats
Memphis. In fact, with the exception of barbeque, blues, bible thumpers,
just about everything in St. Louis is better than in Memphis. Despite all
its (many) problems, in my opinion, St. Louis is one of the great American
cities; a great place to live- and I'm not even from there.

Memphis Jim
(The Pacific Northwest still looks like where me and the doctor will end
up)


It's interesting - St Louis is generally regarded, if it is regarded at all,
as kind of a mystery place somewhere between Paducah and Davenport . . .
somewhere upstream from Cairo. Yeah - that's it - the place with the golden
arch, right?

Actually, you're right. It is a pretty good place to live. After you get
used to it and learn how to pronounce all those French street names like
"Gravois." Where I work, we find that the best people to recruit are people
who used to live here and now live in other metropolii such as Boston, New
York, or Moorseville.

And it's the home of toasted ravioli, Scott Joplin, Chuck Berry, Budweiser,
and the Cardinals. And now the Rams, who've been here for almost ten years
so St Louis is almost ready to claim them. Even if you don't like Budweiser,
the fact that the biggest business in town brews beer says something!

Finally, I really can be in a wild trout stream in an hour.

Bob

"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote in message
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And it's the home of toasted ravioli, Scott Joplin, Chuck Berry,
Budweiser,
and the Cardinals. And now the Rams, who've been here for almost ten years
so St Louis is almost ready to claim them. Even if you don't like
Budweiser,
the fact that the biggest business in town brews beer says something!

I thought Anhauser-Busch was the biggest business in town! Which business
is brewing beer in St Louis?

Danl

"Danl" wrote in message
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"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote in message
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And it's the home of toasted ravioli, Scott Joplin, Chuck Berry,
Budweiser,
and the Cardinals. And now the Rams, who've been here for almost ten
years
so St Louis is almost ready to claim them. Even if you don't like
Budweiser,
the fact that the biggest business in town brews beer says something!

I thought Anhauser-Busch was the biggest business in town! Which business
is brewing beer in St Louis?

Danl

Yah, Yah, Yah. Mere semantics, my man. Mere semantics. :-)
Budweiser ain't so bad, 'specially for something that's made in machinery
that looks, as I once said to a friend at A-B, like an oil refinery.
Besides, what else can you drink at a Cardinals game?
Bob