rod tip question

indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging
in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine

dollars.

I'd suggest one of the Temple Forks Joe. Probably madein Korea for $5.00 but
it will do a pretty good jobn in that price range.

--
Clark Reid
http://www.dryflynz.com
Umpqua Designer Flytier


"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
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indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my
time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging
in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine

dollars.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:49:40 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:

indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine
dollars.

9 feet total?
Buy a length of hardwood dowel and just tie the leader to the tip ;-)

Yopu'll probably want a fast tip.


--
Bob Sheedy
www.mwflyfishing.net
Author: Lake Fly Fishing Strategies
Bob Sheedy's Top Fifty Stillwater Fly Patterns


"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my
time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging
in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine

dollars.

Hi Joe,

For real short dry fly casting (~10' - 20' ) you need a fly line that will
load up your rod well so it might be a double tarper floater one size
heavier than the rod is rated for.

With a short (7-8') softer action fly rod with one size up fly line with
short front taper (DT), short leader (7.5'-5x) and maybe no butt section or
tippet at first you can actually fly cast at pretty short distances.

These rods are lots of fun too but some don't seem to like short rods for
any reason.
--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...

indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my
time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging
in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine

dollars.

"Bill Kiene" wrote in message
om...
Hi Joe,

For real short dry fly casting (~10' - 20' ) you need a fly line that will
load up your rod well so it might be a double tarper floater one size
heavier than the rod is rated for.

With a short (7-8') softer action fly rod with one size up fly line with
short front taper (DT), short leader (7.5'-5x) and maybe no butt section
or
tippet at first you can actually fly cast at pretty short distances.

These rods are lots of fun too but some don't seem to like short rods for
any reason.

I've got a four foot fiberglass rod that works beautifully for short casts
in tight spots.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote

I've got a four foot fiberglass rod that works beautifully for short casts
in tight spots.

Wolfgang

you *must* let me try that on dick's creek on your next foray into the
old north state.

yfitons
wayno (um, well, you can have my 6.5 orvis "one ounce" in temporary
trade...)

Going that short for a 4wt is crazy. Go for a 3wt or 2wt witha double
taper line. I have a Wintson 2wt with a Rio double taper. It's 7'6" and I
can throw two nymphs (size 12 or less bead headed) or one nymph and a strike
indicator. I also can place a size 8 stimulator quite accurately with
heavier tippet (4x).

Brands? Thats up to you but go lighter in weight you'll love it. It's good
that you understand in trout fishing, the rod should match the flies.

We use 4wts to catch 5+ pound rainbow in Duck Lake, Browning, Montana.
"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
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indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my
time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging
in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine

dollars.

"Wolfgang" wrote:
I've got a four foot fiberglass rod that works beautifully for short casts
in tight spots.

I think slower is better when you are casting just the leader. I have a
7' fiberglass rod that works well in these situations, but when I'm heading
to a really brushy area I take a bamboo rod because it just works best.

Charlie Wilson wrote:

I think slower is better when you are casting just the leader. I have a
7' fiberglass rod that works well in these situations, but when I'm heading
to a really brushy area I take a bamboo rod because it just works best.

Camouflage?

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