Dave Scadden Pontoon Craft

Platforms are only good if someone is rowing for you.

No, not true. I would not use a platform in faster water, but some rivers
(i.e. the Great Ouse in the UK) and still water fishing make the platform
very useful.

He also mentioned sal****er use. For that you really want the platform.
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Frank Reid
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I have no experience with sal****er. I do know the bucks bas rep told us to
warn customers not to try and anchor in moving current. On the bucks model
it is possible to capsize it (anchor's in the back). Also if the anchor
gets snagged in moving water you will be asked for trouble as well. The
anchor to hold it on shore makes sense when fishing from land (sandbar,
banks, etc.)

Though none of this has happened to my friends or me personally, I still
followed the reps advice. But then again, I'd be willing to use a
stillwater pontoon on moving water...hmmmm
"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in message
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Platforms are only good if someone is rowing for you.

No, not true. I would not use a platform in faster water, but some
rivers
(i.e. the Great Ouse in the UK) and still water fishing make the
platform
very useful.

He also mentioned sal****er use. For that you really want the platform.
--
Frank Reid
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I would think seriously about launching a pontoon craft in a sal****er
situation that has any potential major current. If you are in a large
sal****er bay that's one thing, but in a tide flowing scenario you could
easily get into trouble. For example, a place I take clients is the mouth of
Barnstable Harbor on Cape Cod, MA. The flats have moderate current on
outgoing tides but the main channel is major and no amount of fin paddling
is going to work. Just be careful, check out the tides wherever you decide
to go and scope it out thoroughly first. No fish is worth drowning for.

Good fishing...Ted

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"Ted Bobetsky" wrote:

I would think seriously about launching a pontoon craft in a sal****er
situation that has any potential major current. If you are in a large
sal****er bay that's one thing, but in a tide flowing scenario you could
easily get into trouble. For example, a place I take clients is the mouth of
Barnstable Harbor on Cape Cod, MA. The flats have moderate current on
outgoing tides but the main channel is major and no amount of fin paddling
is going to work. Just be careful, check out the tides wherever you decide
to go and scope it out thoroughly first. No fish is worth drowning for.

Good fishing...Ted



I have seen a few of these type craft in sal****er (very few) but I
think you would do much better with a kayak or canoe.

For the canoe you can start with something stable (though there are
always compromises) and then add outrigger stabilizers (Spring Creek as
I recall is a vendor). You can certainly get where you are going quicker
and cover more water.

For the kayak you could use the same formula as you can add the
outriggers to them as well. I use a Hobie Outback with a pedal system
and I have yet to see a current that it could not handle (of course I am
not fishing in the NE either). I have come through Longboat Key near
Sarasota Fl at full outgoing tide though.

Another option for a kayak that will allow you to stang is the
Tribalance (I have one of those also). It will not capsize but that does
not mean you can not fall out. It also offers the option of sitting
inside in inclement weather as you get in or out but also on top. An
easy rise to your feet to make a cast.

There was one fellow off one of the central FL beaches fishing for
tarpon from an intertube (good size hammers are seen there also); they
nicknamed him 'bait'

good luck!

Atlanta JOE
--
"Atlanta Joe" aka Joe Webb
Flats fishing is Flat Fun!
Visit my site at http://flatsfisher.com

"Bill" wrote in message
om...
I am in the final process of deciding on my first pontoon boat and it
looks like the first pontoon I looked at - Dave Scadden - Madison
River (9 foot)- I like the best. Does anyone have any experience with
these pontoons?

I was eyeing those up at the recent FF show & thought they were soundly
constructed in my limited experience.

How about Sal****er use? For Stripers? - feeder rivers to ocean or
bays?

Methinks a 10# striper could tow you a good ways in a direct you don't want
to go. g

Joe F.

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Bill wrote:

I am in the final process of deciding on my first pontoon boat ...


My advice is to forget cumbersome, clumsy contraptions and get
yourself a good canoe.



Guy has a small car. Don't think a canoe is a good option for him. I
really enjoy canoing, but they're a pain in the ass to haul around.

Willi

In article ,
(Greg Pavlov) wrote:

That brings back a few good memories,
sitting up here in Buffalo winter ...

Do you use the Hobie to fly fish ? One
thing that struck me about it is that the
pedal gear could be hard to keep fly line
off of.

Another option for a kayak that will allow you
to stang is the Tribalance (I have one of those
also).

I've read comments that the Tribalance
shouldn't be used in rougher water that
is ok in other kayaks. Is this true,
and if so, is it because the outriggers
could actually work against you in that
sort of situation ?

Well I am not much better stuck in N. Georgia. Probably a few degrees
warmer but relatively this has been a wet cold winter. We have not even
ahd any snow to oggle over (and get out of work a day).

As for the Hobie I have to admit I am not the best fly angler but really
the pedal assembly would not be a huge problem. If you were in fact
standing (and I am not sure I could stand and fly cast) there is ample
clear room. If sitting, you would be stripping to your lap and probably
some type of apron (really could use a stripping basket if standing as
well).

The nice thing about fishing down south is that wading is the way to go.
The yak or paddle craft is still a benefit as it gets you places you
could not wade even at extreme low tides (unless you plan on swimming
back in). One of my best fishing buddies who also has a skiff uses it
the same way. Motor out near the flat, drigt and troll in then get out
and wade. He figures, and I agree, even if drifting a yak/canoe you can
not really work the water. Wading you find the holes, feel the subtle
temp changes and can stay in a spot and fish it when you get some action
or interest. Even with my GPS tracking it is hard to get back where I
had a bump.

On the Tribalance, I have had mine in 3 foot swells and shared channels
with 40 footers (and there wake) with never a problem. Actually the
reason I use the Tribalance less is that it does have quite a bit of
rocker and it is tough to keep straight. I could not keep up with the
longer Ocean Kayaks and then the Tarpons. Even though it is a narrow
craft. Still it offers some great options and is as good an all purpose
boat as I could imagine. The real weakness would be taking it some place
that was close in (Like the Glades or narrow canals).

All this talk has me hurting again. This is about as long a string of no
fishing I have had in a couple of years. Hope you warm up or maybe get a
chance to get down and catch some flats fish.

good fishin'

atlanta joe
--
"Atlanta Joe" aka Joe Webb
Flats fishing is Flat Fun!
Visit my site at http://flatsfisher.com

joe wrote:


For the kayak you could use the same formula as you can add the
outriggers to them as well. I use a Hobie Outback with a pedal system
and I have yet to see a current that it could not handle (of course I am
not fishing in the NE either). I have come through Longboat Key near
Sarasota Fl at full outgoing tide though.

I also use the Hobie OutBack,, This has got to be the best, light, take
anywhere boat, out there, yes I know it's the most expensive, but it
comes fully loaded for fishing, I take it out 10 to one over my bass
boat now, not only in skinny water either. It's just FUN to fish from.

I can see a huge problem with it this summer though,, keeping the wife,
kids and grand kids out of it, so I can use it fishing. This little
problem will help many men get permission to buy it though .

"Look Honey , you, and the kids, will use it more than me" :-)

I'm in the process of doing a complete web page, product review, on the
boat, I should have it finished this weekend, and get it up on my web
site. I just wish it had a reverse, besides the paddle that is

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks ,
Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long
Shot rig
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

"Bill" wrote in message
om...
I am in the final process of deciding on my first pontoon boat and it
looks like the first pontoon I looked at - Dave Scadden - Madison
River (9 foot)- I like the best. Does anyone have any experience with
these pontoons? This does not have internal bladders, frame brakes
down to 3 pieces, weighs only 46lbs without platform. Portability is
very important as I have a small car - must fit in trunk with back
seats down.
Will be using mostly on Upper Delaware ( class I & II).
Have not decided if I should get Standing Platform w/leaning bar - any
thoughts?
(seems it could be more of a nusiance if mostly pulling over and
stopping to fish)

How about Sal****er use? For Stripers? - feeder rivers to ocean or
bays?

If I can throw one more opinion into the fray,,,,,,I have fished the
Delaware, I also fish sal****er ponds, breachways and the West Branch
Penobscot (class 3 whitewater). I've seen a number of pontoon boats get
into trouble in all of these places.
Also in any moving water, you're limited to fish, for the most part, down
stream.
If you ask me a rowing canoe is the answer for you. Portable, stable,
maneuverable. With the right one in many situations you may stand and fish.
I also have rigged anchor systems at both ends, so I may anchor facing up or
down stream and to stabilize my anchorage in cross currents. I use an Old
Town Osprey 15.5' and couldn't be happier.


"Bob Lamson" wrote in message
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"Bill" wrote in message
om...
I am in the final process of deciding on my first pontoon boat and it
looks like the first pontoon I looked at - Dave Scadden - Madison
River (9 foot)- I like the best. Does anyone have any experience with
these pontoons? This does not have internal bladders, frame brakes
down to 3 pieces, weighs only 46lbs without platform. Portability is
very important as I have a small car - must fit in trunk with back
seats down.
Will be using mostly on Upper Delaware ( class I & II).
Have not decided if I should get Standing Platform w/leaning bar - any
thoughts?
(seems it could be more of a nusiance if mostly pulling over and
stopping to fish)

How about Sal****er use? For Stripers? - feeder rivers to ocean or
bays?