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says...
Yeah, I kinda doubt that Rush has been "discussing" it.
[hey, I gotta give it to you dittos: life is much easier
and more efficient when you can rely on a talk show for
all of your news, analyses, and moral standards]

Hey, did you ever read the Healthy Forest Restoration Act? Good example
of how accurate and unbiased your left wing sources are......
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says...
If you're the son of a Congressman, you get paid, you get free dental
work, and you get an honorable discharge.

Actually RW, it is a bit different than that. You must be getting your
info from the same ****ed up sources that wouldn't know their head from
their ass as Pavlov is.... The fact of the matter is that a reservist
may get a "page 11" entry (not sure what other branches call it) which
is basically a slap on the wrist *IF* the CO even decides to go that
route. I saw many people get a verbal reprimand only and not even get a
page 11 when they decided they just weren't going to be there, didn't
call and never showed up. All that you had to do in order to get a
"sat" (satisfactory) year was make up the drills. If you didn't get a
sat year, you merely had to serve another year to make up for the bad
one in order to get a honorable discharge.

When I was in, I was ****ed that people who came to our unit with
several years of obligation left on their contract could just decide to
up and leave. I am talking either straight reservists with seven years
left of their contract that just joined the unit or prior active duty
people that just came to the reserves as part of their contract and who
were obligated to a couple years in the reserves. You couldn't even
give them a dishonorable discharge! They would get a "General Other
Than Honorable" and that was that. I disagree with that practice but
understand why it is the way it is.

Also, reservists don't get "free dental" unless they are on active duty.
Even while on active duty it was basically emergency services only for
reservists; no teeth cleaning, no cosmetic ****, etc; just what was
deemed "emergency services." Even if you needed a dentist, unless you
were on active duty (two week mandatory time per year or actually
activated) there wasn't even access to dental most of the time. I can
think of one instance where a guy got dental during a drill weekend and
that was when he got ****ed up during a drill weekend. They took him to
El Toro from Pasadena for treatment because it happened during a drill
weekend and was an accident during the course of training while on
"duty" in the reserves.

FWIW, during the four and half years I was in the reserves, I don't even
recall getting a dental checkup. I know I had to use my dental
insurance from my employer to get my wisdom teeth pulled because there
was absolutely no chance of getting it taken care of even during one of
my two week active duty obligations. Believe me, I looked into it
because I had a high deductible.....
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irate says...
rw writes:

I never said he has the Purple Heart, and as far as I know neither has
he. He has the Silver Star.

Ahh, but he WORE the PH for awhile, claiming his wounds were combat related.
They weren't. So, when he waves his stump and hollers about his wounds and
stuff, he is being a phony.

How can that *not* be combat? The guy got blown to bits by incoming
fire!
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"rb608" wrote in message
...

"Tim J." wrote in message
. . . rolling on the beach? A: Sandy
. . . hanging on the wall? A: Art
. . . standing in a corn field? A: Colonel
. . . standing in the middle of a stage? A: Mike
. . . sitting on the grill? A: Chuck
. . . in your pocket? A: Penny
. . . coming over a hill in the east? A: Dawn
. . . in your mailbox? A: Bill


...lying in a ditch? A: Phil
...lying by the door? A: Matt
...sitting on the grill (female)? A: Patty


....two guys hanging by a window? Curt and Rod
....under a pile of leaves? Russell


--riverman

lid says...
You're wrong about Kerry's war record, the men who served with him
know the truth of it. You're the last person on earth I would have
expected to spit on a Vietnam Vet, but your partisan politics seems
to trump even your military allegiance.

So Kerry, like everybody else in the military, is a jingo?
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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
. com...

"Tom Littleton" wrote

thank you, Vince....otherwise it would just seem like old Tom and his odd
ideas
again. I have been touting this point for years and it is amazing how few
working people get it.
Tom

well, obviously, as shown by the brilliance of posts by working people
like lat757 or whateverthe****, working people are far more concerned with
directing their energies to far more important things like a couple thousand
gay people getting "married", or whatever the **** they want to do.

yfitons
wayno (do you begin to understand why i refuse to engage in threads dealing
with politics and religion?)

Is this one of those "no means yes" conundrums? ;-)
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TL,
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"riverman" wrote in message
...

"rb608" wrote in message
...

"Tim J." wrote in message
. . . rolling on the beach? A: Sandy
. . . hanging on the wall? A: Art
. . . standing in a corn field? A: Colonel
. . . standing in the middle of a stage? A: Mike
. . . sitting on the grill? A: Chuck
. . . in your pocket? A: Penny
. . . coming over a hill in the east? A: Dawn
. . . in your mailbox? A: Bill

...lying in a ditch? A: Phil
...lying by the door? A: Matt
...sitting on the grill (female)? A: Patty

...two guys hanging by a window? Curt and Rod
...under a pile of leaves? Russell

.. . . in the window? A: Payne
.. . . hauling your supplies? A: Wayne
.. . . living north of England? A: Scott
--
TL,
Tim
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Warren writes:

How can that *not* be combat? The guy got blown to bits by incoming
fire!

The guy was fiddling with a hand grenade when it went off, and it was in a
non-combat situation.

Dave LaCourse wrote:

Warren writes:


How can that *not* be combat? The guy got blown to bits by incoming
fire!


The guy was fiddling with a hand grenade when it went off, and it was in a
non-combat situation.

You read a hatchet job by the uberbitch Ann Coulter and swallowed it
hook, line and sinker. Four days after heroic action in the battle of
Khe Sanh, for which he was awarded the Silver Star, Cleland was nearly
killed in an accident. He wasn't "fiddling" with a hand grenade. He
picked it up after he thought it fell off his web belt when he jumped
out of a helicopter.

You are a disgrace.

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In article , slenon
wrote:

My father-in-law was a forward
artillery observer in WW2, & found himself bleeding on more than one
occasion. No doubt he could have and should have received the PH, but was
never put in for it. I suppose it partly depends on the inclination of the
CO.

Joe F.

Right on both suppositions.

After Desert Storm I could look at another EA-6B aviator and tell you
what boat he served on simply by the awards he wore. We all flew the
same missions to the same targets and got shot at by the same SAMS and
guns. Different CO's and chains of commands wrote the missions up
different and recommended different awards.
We hosted an USAF F-15 C driver (the air to air model not the E model
that does attack) on the boat and everyone in his squadron who flew
during the first two days of the war was awarded a Silver Star.
Awards are one of those things you have to look back on with pride and
remember what they mean to you on your own since they are not awarded
with any consistancy even in the same service.
Allen
Catonsville, MD