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Old February 27th, 2004, 08:25 PM
snakefiddler
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"Jeff Taylor" wrote in message
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"George Adams" wrote in message
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Started dieting two weeks ago, and I was wondering if any of you have

any
success/failure stories regarding dieting and weight loss.


My folks started the Atkin's the first of the year, they have both lost 30
pounds...

I started at 235 lbs. and hope to drop down to around 205. The beer and
pizza diet hasn't worked so far, maybe if I switch to Lt. beer...

Jeff T.



just go back to school- :] the stress, combined with lack of time for
meals makes for a very effective weight loss program!

Snakefiddler- 13 lbs lighter since my first semester


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Old February 27th, 2004, 08:46 PM
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I'm a huge skeptic regarding "name brand" diets. Adkins is dead from
coronary artery disease.


Atkins died of a brain injury suffered in a fall on an icy sidewalk. He had
heart disease for years, but it was caused by a bacterial infection of his
heart....not clogged arteries.

That said, I felt uncomfortable about eating so few veggies on the diet, so I
made some modifications, and it seems to be working. I'm sure that there are
people profiting from the Atkins name, but they didn't make much from me. All I
bought was a paperback copy of his book. I have not, and will not, buy branded
"Atkins" products. Eveything I need is available at the grocery store.

I saw my doctor prior to starting, and he gave me the OK. I would be doing
better if I exesized, but a chest cold has prevented that. Hopefully, I'll be
able to start again next week.

Just as a side note, the doctor told me that he has several patients who have
been on Atkins, and their blood pressure, cholesterol, and triglyceride numbers
have all gone down. Seems that starving your body of carbs, causes it to
metabolize fat, thus the weight loss and other benefits.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

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Old February 27th, 2004, 09:43 PM
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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just go back to school- :] the stress, combined with lack of time for
meals makes for a very effective weight loss program!

Snakefiddler- 13 lbs lighter since my first semester


No more stress required at this time... Cabin fever has me twisted up as it
is! Hope to move past the winter blues starting March 31st on the
Bitterroot, that will be the spring opener for my fishing buddies and
myself... Can't wait!

Tonight I am going to switch over from 12 to 16 ouncers, the added weight
should help drastically. I will also drink faster so my trips to the
refrigerator (good exercise) are not cut down with the larger containers...


Jeff T.


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Old February 27th, 2004, 09:47 PM
just al
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George Adams wrote:

Started dieting two weeks ago, and I was wondering if any of you have any
success/failure stories regarding dieting and weight loss.

I too have been dieting was 200 now 175 and want to hit 165 and hold it
there. Weight Watchers online did it for me. I don't "formally" exercise.
Turning 32 next month and want to see my grand kids graduate college before
I have a coronary. I like this diet online because I don't want to weigh in
and have everyone applaud me.

I stick to it 5 to six days a week. Eat a huge breakfast (Belgian waffles,
eggs fried in the left over sausage or bacon grease) on Saturday AND Sunday.
Steak, pork chops--their both there during the week it's all how one
prepares them.

Carbs are important. Junk food and prepared food is not. The only draw
back the WW is that the dieter MUST grocery shop and have a variety of food
at hand to enjoy the diet. I have to eat spaghetti and pizza and
cheeseburgers and Philly steak sandwiches...

I still eat at a nice restaurant once a week too. Appetizers through
desert.

You can sign up online for three months. Again cooking and grocery shopping
has to fit into your lifestyle. Oh yeah and you have to like fruits and
vegetables. If you're picky this diet ain't for you.

How long did it take? About a year with falling off the wagon for a couple
of months. But I'm back on it. Shoot, sorry, one last thing...I found that
I lost weight then nothing but lost inches when the pounds weren't dropping,
so don't live by the scale.

Good health to you, George!


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Old February 27th, 2004, 09:52 PM
just al
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Jeff Taylor wrote:

Tonight I am going to switch over from 12 to 16 ouncers, the added weight
should help drastically.

I found when I lived in Whitefish, MT and was up to 210, that the added
weight allowed me to stand in faster current with confidence. (Fished the
Flathead all year round--extended whitefish season)


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Old February 27th, 2004, 10:05 PM
Svend Tang-Petersen
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Frank,

workouts build muscle and burns fat wich has a lower density. Thus you can
actually gain weight
but loose volume if you start exercising. For me it works that way. If I dont
workout I loose weight.

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Old February 27th, 2004, 10:23 PM
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just al wrote:

Jeff Taylor wrote:

Tonight I am going to switch over from 12 to 16 ouncers, the added weight
should help drastically.

I found when I lived in Whitefish, MT and was up to 210, that the added
weight allowed me to stand in faster current with confidence.


All the fat must have gone to your head (instead of your hips). :-)

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Old February 28th, 2004, 05:57 AM
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"George Adams" wrote in message
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Started dieting two weeks ago, and I was wondering if any of you have any
success/failure stories regarding dieting and weight loss. I'm using a

modified
Atkins, low carb, but with a greater variety of veggies than allowed an

the
strict Atkins regime. Results so far, 8 pounds lost in two weeks. I have

had a
bad cold for most of this time, so haven't been exercising. I expect to do
better once I get back on the treadmill. I'm looking to lose around forty
pounds.


I don't know **** about diets.....never needed to (which, if you think about
it, just may suggest something about qualifications).....but I DO know this
much; the weight loss/gain equation is about as simple as anything can be.
Calories in calories out = weight gain. (emphasis on the "."). Calories
out calories in = weight loss. (ditto). In order to effect loss or gain,
the equation can be attacked from either end. As long as the desired result
is simply weight loss, it doesn't make a damned bit of difference what the
source of the calories is. All the bull**** about differing rates of
metabolism and the mystical nonsense about Atkins or any other "foolproof"
plan is just that. NOTE!: I did NOT say it's easy......just simple.

A few minor discoveries:
Splenda is a great substitute for sugar.....way ahead of the others in

taste.
Sugar free Jello tastes the same as the regular stuff.
Diet soda tastes like soap.....I'm sticking with water.


If you've got a sweetness Jones, try Stevia. No, this is not a (well
deserved) dump on several individuals in this group. Stevia is an
herbaceous plant (native to somewhere in South America, if memory serves)
containing a substance that registers on the taste buds as EXTREMELY sweet
(something on the order of two hundred times as sweet as sugar according to
the sources I've read.....and whatever the hell that might mean) while being
entirely free of sugar (and calories) and entirely natural and harmless. It
should be noted that there has been a good deal of research on stevioids
(the active "sweet" compounds in Stevia) and that there are some concerns
about their safety under certain conditions. It's been a couple of years
since I looked into the matter, so I don't remember exactly what those
concerns were, but my sources (again, if memory serves) suggested that these
concerns only applied under special circumstances that had nothing to do
with using the raw, unrefined product as a substitute for sugars. I first
found Stevia sold in bulk in a local co-op and have since grown it in my
garden. Everyone to whom I've given some to taste has been amazed. A few
have actually used it in place of sugar with satisfactory results. The
dried product loses none of its potency and can, as far as I know, be stored
more or less indefinitely. There are lots of references on the web.
Presumably (I haven't checked recently) there are also sources.

Wolfgang


 




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