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Old March 5th, 2004, 02:00 PM
rb608
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I've visited the TopoZone website a few times, and one of the interesting
features is that it will tell you the exact coordinates of a point you
select in the crosshairs. I'd been curious about how accurate that was
compared to my GPS, so yesterday I checked it. I selected an intersection
about a mile from my house, and plugged the TopoZone coordinates into the
GPS. On my next errand run, I drove through that intersection to see how
close the coordinates would correspond. The result, almost dead on. Pretty
cool.

Joe F.


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Old March 5th, 2004, 03:21 PM
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"rb608" wrote in message
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I've visited the TopoZone website a few times, and one of the

interesting
features is that it will tell you the exact coordinates of a point

you
select in the crosshairs. I'd been curious about how accurate that

was
compared to my GPS, so yesterday I checked it. I selected an

intersection
about a mile from my house, and plugged the TopoZone coordinates

into the
GPS. On my next errand run, I drove through that intersection to

see how
close the coordinates would correspond. The result, almost dead on.

Pretty
cool.


I've done the same thing with DeLorme's "Street Atlas" software.
Generally, the results have been very good, but I've noticed some
errors of ten to twenty yards. Certainly close enough for most
applications, I think, but it might make a significant difference in
some. Even without the GPS it quickly becomes apparent that some
features on the software maps are not exactly in the right place.
I've found a few businesses, for example, a block or so away from
where they are shown.

Wolfgang


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Old March 5th, 2004, 03:29 PM
Tim J.
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"Wolfgang" wrote...
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Even without the GPS it quickly becomes apparent that some
features on the software maps are not exactly in the right place.
I've found a few businesses, for example, a block or so away from
where they are shown.


I've found a LOT of that type of problem. Microsoft Streets & Trips 2000
software has Coburn, PA seventy miles west of its true location.
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Old March 5th, 2004, 03:37 PM
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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I've done the same thing with DeLorme's "Street Atlas" software.
Generally, the results have been very good, but I've noticed some
errors of ten to twenty yards.


Both my GPS and the map display accuracies of .01 minutes. How far is that
anyway? (I'm not in the mood to do the math.) BTW, I've wondered about
the actual coordinate memory of these things. Even though it displays to
hundredths of a minute, do they store a greater accuracy internally?

Certainly close enough for most
applications, I think, but it might make a significant difference in
some.


Like, the bridge over the river is at 39° 36.53'N, 76° 38.11'W , and there's
a 20" brown at 39° 36.35'N, 76° 38.43'W.


Joe F.


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Old March 5th, 2004, 03:39 PM
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"Tim J." wrote in message
I've found a LOT of that type of problem. Microsoft Streets & Trips 2000
software has Coburn, PA seventy miles west of its true location.


That's its true location. There are two Coburns in PA.

Joe F.


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Old March 5th, 2004, 03:42 PM
Tim J.
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"rb608" wrote...
"Tim J." wrote:
I've found a LOT of that type of problem. Microsoft Streets & Trips 2000
software has Coburn, PA seventy miles west of its true location.


That's its true location. There are two Coburns in PA.


Then the software has a greater fault - the second one isn't listed.
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Old March 5th, 2004, 03:51 PM
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"rb608" wrote in message
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Both my GPS and the map display accuracies of .01 minutes. How far is

that
anyway? (I'm not in the mood to do the math.)


One minute is approximately one nautical mile (6080 feet). I leave the
decimal point movement to the reader.



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Old March 5th, 2004, 04:01 PM
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"rb608" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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I've done the same thing with DeLorme's "Street Atlas" software.
Generally, the results have been very good, but I've noticed some
errors of ten to twenty yards.


Both my GPS and the map display accuracies of .01 minutes. How far

is that
anyway? (I'm not in the mood to do the math.)


Hm......

Well, assuming the Earth's cirumference to be 24,000 miles, that would
make one degree of longitude at the equator equal to 66.67 miles. A
minute of arc is 1/60th of a degree or 1.11 miles. So, .01 mintue
equals .011 miles or roughly 58.67 feet.

BTW, I've wondered about
the actual coordinate memory of these things. Even though it

displays to
hundredths of a minute, do they store a greater accuracy internally?


No idea.

Certainly close enough for most
applications, I think, but it might make a significant difference

in
some.


Like, the bridge over the river is at 39° 36.53'N, 76° 38.11'W , and

there's
a 20" brown at 39° 36.35'N, 76° 38.43'W.


Zactly! Um.....then again, unless your casting is at least as precise
as your GPS it's probably moot.

Wolfgang
and, of course, if you're at 45° 12.42'N, 90° 8.33'W the whole thing
is just plain silly.


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Old March 5th, 2004, 04:15 PM
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The GPS in my car is accurate to within 10 meters, which makes it somewhat
less accurate than current models with WAAS enabled. The very few times
I've matched it to map coordinates it's been bang on.

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Old March 5th, 2004, 04:24 PM
Frank Reid
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Well, assuming the Earth's cirumference to be 24,000 miles, that would
make one degree of longitude at the equator equal to 66.67 miles. A
minute of arc is 1/60th of a degree or 1.11 miles. So, .01 mintue
equals .011 miles or roughly 58.67 feet.


Works for minutes north and south as the latitudinal lines are
equidistant.
East and west (longitudinal) is dependant on your latitude. By the way,
map
makers regulary move objects on a map away from their true locations to
reduce clutter and make it easier to annotate.

--
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