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  #11  
Old April 23rd, 2004, 10:31 PM
Kurt Hauck
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"riverman" wrote in message ...
(OK, I put this into the 'snowballs chance in hell' category...)

I have an open week in midJune before I need to be in Plymouth, England for
grad school. I've made some reservations to get myself into south-central
Wales from June 15-20, as there are apparently quite a few very nice
trout/greyling/salmon streams there, amongst the headwaters and tributaries
of the Why and Usk rivers. I'm planning on renting a car and a small suite
at a B&B in a small Welsh (Welch?) town that has a pub, some interesting
local culture, some good food, some scenery, and some trout streams.

If anyone has a week off, needs/wants to be on this side of the pond, and
wants to do some exploring of the region and do some flyfishing,
Wales-style, get in touch. It would be fun to have the company.

--riverman


The last time I looked into trout fishing in the UK I was spending my
last year of high school attending seventh form first year at a
grammar school in Southampton which was a long, long time ago but from
looking at http://www.fishing-in-wales.com I don't think things have
changed that much.

To fish for trout (a "game" fish as opposed to a "course" fish),
either you belong to a Fishing Club or you rent a room in a hotel that
has Fishing Rights. Either way you are allowed a specific part of a
specific stream (the "beat" system).

The Fishing Clubs seemed to have many-year-long waiting lists so the
best bet for game fish is a hotel with Fishing Rights.

The good thing about England was Public Footpaths which allowed you to
wander across the countryside pretty much at will and the bad part was
when the footpath followed a great looking stream there was no way you
could ever fish.

For wandering and fishing at whim in the UK, you must fish sal****er.
  #12  
Old April 24th, 2004, 03:16 AM
Mike Connor
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"Lazarus Cooke" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Let me tell you I'm an ulster protestant.......



Oh dear, I think that´s ****ed it altogether!

Just a tip, if you want to **** on Ken ( not that he´d notice anyway), you
have to do it from a great height!

TL
MC ( Still climbimg!)


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Old April 24th, 2004, 11:27 AM
Lazarus Cooke
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A few quotes from the preface to "moby dick"

ŒThe Indian Sea breedeth the most and the biggest
fishes that a among which the Whales and Whirlpooles
called Balaene, take up as much in length as four acres or
arpens of land.¹ ‹HOLLAND¹S PLINY.

ŒIf you should write a fable for little fishes, you would
make them speak like great wales.¹ ‹GOLDSMITH TO
JOHNSON.

ŒThe Spermacetti Whale found by the Nantuckois, is
an active, fierce animal, and requires vast address and
boldness in the fishermen.¹ ‹THOMAS JEFFERSON¹S
WHALE MEMORIAL TO THE FRENCH
MINISTER IN 1778.

ŒA tenth branch of the king¹s ordinary revenue, said to
be grounded on the consideration of his guarding and
protecting the seas from pirates and robbers, is the right to
royal fish, which are whale and sturgeon. And these, when
either thrown ashore or caught near the coast, are the
property of the king.¹ ‹BLACKSTONE.

ŒIn the free element beneath me swam,
Floundered and dived, in play, in chace, in battle,
Fishes of every colour, form, and kind;
Which language cannot paint, and mariner
Had never seen; from dread Leviathan
To insect millions peopling every wave:
Gather¹d in shoals immense, like floating islands,
Led by mysterious instincts through that waste
And trackless region, though on every side
Assaulted by voracious enemies,
Whales, sharks, and monsters, arm¹d in front or jaw,
With swords, saws, spiral horns, or hooked fangs.¹ ‹
MONTGOMERY¹S WORLD BEFORE THE
FLOOD.

ŒIo! Paean! Io! sing.
To the finny people¹s king.
Not a mightier whale than this
In the vast Atlantic is;
Not a fatter fish than he,
Flounders round the Polar Sea.¹ ‹CHARLES LAMB¹S
TRIUMPH OF THE WHALE.

Lazarus

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Old April 24th, 2004, 11:51 AM
riverman
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"W. D. Grey" wrote in message
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In article , riverman
writes
(OK, I put this into the 'snowballs chance in hell' category...)

I have an open week in midJune before I need to be in Plymouth, England

for
grad school. I've made some reservations to get myself into south-central
Wales from June 15-20, as there are apparently quite a few very nice
trout/greyling/salmon streams there, amongst the headwaters and

tributaries
of the Why and Usk rivers. I'm planning on renting a car and a small

suite
at a B&B in a small Welsh (Welch?) town that has a pub, some interesting
local culture, some good food, some scenery, and some trout streams.

If anyone has a week off, needs/wants to be on this side of the pond, and
wants to do some exploring of the region and do some flyfishing,
Wales-style, get in touch. It would be fun to have the company.

--riverman


Hi Riverman,

The area you suggest is gorgeous. I would suggest you try and get some
lodgings in Brecon. This is a small town in the county of Powys. The
rivers you mention -the Wye and the Usk are really famous.

I have only fished the Wye once at a town called Builth a few miles
north of Brecon. My fishing at the moment is more or less at a
standstill. I shall make some enquiries about the prospect of fishing in
these waters.

To find Brecon on the map, find Cardiff and follow the A470 North. This
road ranges throughout Wales travelling from South to North Wales
passing Brecon and Builth.

I'll come back to you when I have some information.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk



Thanks, Bill. I look forward to hearing more from you. I also hope there's a
chance we can meet up and wet a line while I'm there. After my 5-day trip,
I'll be in Plymouth for another month, with weekends free.

--riverman


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Old April 24th, 2004, 01:23 PM
riverman
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"W. D. Grey" wrote in message
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Also for accommodation try Googling "Accommodation in Brecon, South

Wales"

There is a huge list of hotels guest houses, self catering cottages etc.
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Bill: I was thinking of this guest house http://www.cammarch.co.uk in
Llangamarch Wells. No special reason, except that it seemed off the beaten
track, has comfportable accomodations, and offers access to 3 beats (8
pools) for 12 pounds per day. I think, as it participates in the Ulm and Usk
passport system, that I would have access to much more water if I stayed
there, but in truth I find it hard to understand the Welch system, so I'm
not sure. I was going to email them and ask.

--riverman


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Old April 24th, 2004, 10:26 PM
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Lazarus Cooke wrote in message
. ..
A few quotes from the preface to "moby dick"


ŒIf you should write a fable for little fishes, you would
make them speak like great wales.¹ ‹GOLDSMITH TO
JOHNSON.



I've never seen this Goldsmith quote before; in context, it is rather
amusing. In Boswell's words (IIRC): "Poor old Goldsmith".


  #17  
Old April 25th, 2004, 10:38 AM
Lazarus Cooke
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I've never seen this Goldsmith quote before; in context, it is rather
amusing. In Boswell's words (IIRC): "Poor old Goldsmith".



IIRC?

L

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Old April 25th, 2004, 10:39 AM
W. D. Grey
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In article , riverman
writes
Bill: I was thinking of this guest house http://www.cammarch.co.uk in
Llangamarch Wells. No special reason, except that it seemed off the beaten
track, has comfportable accomodations, and offers access to 3 beats (8
pools) for 12 pounds per day. I think, as it participates in the Ulm and Usk
passport system, that I would have access to much more water if I stayed
there, but in truth I find it hard to understand the Welch system, so I'm
not sure. I was going to email them and ask.


Fine riverman, you'll know more about the area than I do when you have
the answers :-)

In the meantime I've picked up a couple of contact references:

Mr James Suter of the Gliffaes Hotel, I believe he can fix you up with
Usk fishing see:

http:/www.gliffaes.com

This is situated a bit east of Brecon with magnificent scenery all
round.

Second contact is for Wye fishing, see:

http://www.wyeuskfoundation.org.uk

This can provide fishing in the Builth area.

Incidentatally, Llangamarch Wells is fairly close to Builth - on the
south west approach to Builth. (The A 40 road)

Regards,
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk
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Old April 25th, 2004, 10:41 AM
W. D. Grey
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In article , Kurt Hauck
writes
The Fishing Clubs seemed to have many-year-long waiting lists so the
best bet for game fish is a hotel with Fishing Rights.


Most waters club or otherwise do provide "day" tickets.

The web-site "fishing in wales" should provide the locations of such
outlets.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk
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Old April 25th, 2004, 10:46 AM
riverman
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"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
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I've never seen this Goldsmith quote before; in context, it is rather
amusing. In Boswell's words (IIRC): "Poor old Goldsmith".



IIRC?


If I remember correctly.

L


L?


--riverman


 




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