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Old May 28th, 2004, 05:43 PM
Frank Reid
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Last year, I watched Warren whip through some knots using his forceps.
Very quick. Does anyone out there know of a webpage that shows this?
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Old May 28th, 2004, 05:54 PM
Scott Seidman
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Frank Reid wrote in news:c97q6p$j56$1
@newslocal.mitre.org:

Last year, I watched Warren whip through some knots using his forceps.
Very quick. Does anyone out there know of a webpage that shows this?


I don't know of a web page, but its not that tough. Put the fly on the
hook, and hold the standing line and the tag end together in one hand.
Put the CLOSED 'stat on top of the hook eye, in the middle of the "U" in
the line. Rotate the hemostats around the outside of the U to twist the
line 5 or 6 times (that part is hard to describe, but it works), leaving
things loose enough to be able to open the hemostats, grab the tag end, and
pull it through-- wallah!

Scott
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Old May 28th, 2004, 06:41 PM
Danl
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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Frank Reid wrote in news:c97q6p$j56$1
@newslocal.mitre.org:

Last year, I watched Warren whip through some knots using his forceps.
Very quick. Does anyone out there know of a webpage that shows this?


I don't know of a web page, but its not that tough. Put the fly on the
hook, and hold the standing line and the tag end together in one hand.
Put the CLOSED 'stat on top of the hook eye, in the middle of the "U" in
the line. Rotate the hemostats around the outside of the U to twist the
line 5 or 6 times (that part is hard to describe, but it works), leaving
things loose enough to be able to open the hemostats, grab the tag end,

and
pull it through-- wallah!

Scott


This method is also very helpful in making a loop to attach a dropper. Go
thru the monkeymotion as described by Scott without first "putting the fly
on the hook" or line and "Wallah!" . Just don't pull the loop tight (duh!)
until you put the loop onto the bend of the fly from which your dropper
shall dangle. This is why the the Germans sometimes refer to the second fly
in such an arrangement as a dropperdangler.

Danl

Who IS this Wallah character?.........


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Old May 28th, 2004, 06:53 PM
Charlie Choc
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 10:41:05 -0700, "Danl"
wrote:

Who IS this Wallah character?.........

That's what IJ calls Walt when he has a fly in his tongue.
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Charlie...
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Old May 28th, 2004, 07:18 PM
Larry L
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the fastest fly on tippet knot I've seen tied was by one of the guys at
TroutHunter on the HFork

get the fly on the leader,
hold the standing part in one hand on one side of the fly and the tag in the
other hand and side of fly ... the tippet taut
rotate the tag between thumb and first finger the six times ( takes practice
to get the count right, but not a lot of practice )
Bring the two hands together and --viola, the fly rotates six times and you
slip the tag through the now formed loop
can be done faster than saying "tie a knot" after the fly is on the tippet


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Old May 28th, 2004, 07:24 PM
slenon
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Three times around the forcep is sufficient. The reverse the direction of
rotation and do it again. It makes a surgeons' knot. Mosquito hemostats
are preferable for fly tying although it is usually done with a needle
driver in surgery.

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Dark Star

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm



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Old May 28th, 2004, 07:25 PM
DaveMohnsen
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 10:41:05 -0700, "Danl"
wrote:
Who IS this Wallah character?.........
That's what IJ calls Walt when he has a fly in his tongue.
Charlie...

"Funny". Still can't stop chuckling about that episode.
Thanks.
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver
(glad it worked out okay)




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Old May 28th, 2004, 07:26 PM
Scott Seidman
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"slenon" wrote in
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Three times around the forcep is sufficient. The reverse the
direction of rotation and do it again. It makes a surgeons' knot.
Mosquito hemostats are preferable for fly tying although it is usually
done with a needle driver in surgery.


Very different knot. I described how to tie a clinch not with hemostats,
not a surgeons knot.

Scott
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Old May 28th, 2004, 07:42 PM
slenon
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Very different knot. I described how to tie a clinch not with hemostats,
not a surgeons knot.
Scott


Indeed you did.

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Dark Star

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm



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Old May 29th, 2004, 12:26 AM
Frank Reid
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the fastest fly on tippet knot I've seen tied was by one of the guys at
TroutHunter on the HFork

get the fly on the leader,
hold the standing part in one hand on one side of the fly and the tag in

the
other hand and side of fly ... the tippet taut
rotate the tag between thumb and first finger the six times ( takes

practice
to get the count right, but not a lot of practice )
Bring the two hands together and --viola, the fly rotates six times and

you
slip the tag through the now formed loop
can be done faster than saying "tie a knot" after the fly is on the tippet


Someone should make a "guides tricks" web page with all of this in photos.
I'm a visual kinda guy, thats why I asked about a web page. by the way,
thanks all.
Frank


 




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