Flyline/Leader Connection Question

Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use? 4 weight flyline.
This rod will be used for bluegills.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Skip

Skip Summer wrote:

Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use? 4 weight flyline.
This rod will be used for bluegills.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Skip

I use store bought "continuous taper" leaders, 7.5' 3X.
Depending on the brand the thick end is between .019 and
..021, which translates to like 20lb. mono. The tipppet
end is .008, of course, about a 4 or 5lb test.

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Ken Fortenberry

"Skip Summer" wrote in message
om...
Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use?

Look at the diameter of the large end of the leader and purchase butt
section that is the same or just a little larger in diameter. Least this is
what I do...

ymmv,
JT

Skip Summer wrote:

Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use? 4 weight flyline.
This rod will be used for bluegills.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Skip

Use a braided loop (floating or sinking depending on your line type). This

kind of connection is much stronger than the nailknot.

"Svend Tang-Petersen" wrote in message
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Skip Summer wrote:

Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use? 4 weight flyline.
This rod will be used for bluegills.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Skip

Use a braided loop (floating or sinking depending on your line type). This

kind of connection is much stronger than the nailknot.


Granted Skip is talking about a 4 weight and the braided loop is probably
fine for that application, personally not my preference.

If you are fishing for pike, steelhead, salmon, large species, I would
suggest a nail knot connection... I know of a couple guys that fish pike
allot and they went away from the braided loop after having pike jerk the
loop off the fly line.

I tried the braided loop when they came out and found the end of a floating
line will sink. ymmv.

JT

Svend Tang-Petersen wrote:
Skip Summer wrote:
Planning on using some mono to connect flyline
to leader, using a nail knot. What pound test
mono should I use? 4 weight flyline.
This rod will be used for bluegills.
Thanks in advance for the help.

Use a braided loop (floating or sinking depending on your line type). This
kind of connection is much stronger than the nailknot.

I think that's both bad advice and misinformation. I've seen
braided loops pull off and a fly line will break long before
a well tied nail knot will fail.

If it's the loop you're after I'd recommend a nail knot and a
small perfection loop instead of a braided loop and super glue.

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Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

If it's the loop you're after I'd recommend a nail knot and a
small perfection loop instead of a braided loop and super glue.

The most elegant solution, if you want a loop connection for your
leader, is a whipped loop. It's easy to tie. You'll need a razor blade,
thread, a bobbin, and some head cement.

See:
http://www.flyfishinsalt.com/article...&categoryID=69

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I think that's both bad advice and misinformation. I've seen
braided loops pull off and a fly line will break long before
a well tied nail knot will fail.

I've used both but I use the braided loop exclusively now. The only time I
have had one fail is when it goes hard, it doesn't do it's chinese finger
compresion, after it has been on the line for a few years. Getting snagged
on the bottom doesn't even pull it off, the tippet breaks first. I even had
a braided salmon leader break while using a twenty pound tippet and the loop
was still holding.


If it's the loop you're after I'd recommend a nail knot and a
small perfection loop instead of a braided loop and super glue.

I don't use super glue, never have, it makes the braid go hard and it
doesn't tighten on the fly line. I just use the piece of sleeve that comes
with the loop.

I make my own loops now from braided backing, much cheaper


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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:11:45 -0600, rw
wrote:

The most elegant solution, if you want a loop connection for your
leader, is a whipped loop. It's easy to tie. You'll need a razor blade,
thread, a bobbin, and some head cement.

I used to do all my lines that way, now I use a braided loop but I
whip finish where the sleeve would go and coat the thread with
Aquaseal.
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Charlie...

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
....I've seen
braided loops pull off and a fly line will break long before
a well tied nail knot will fail.

Sandy Birrell wrote:
I've used both but I use the braided loop exclusively now. The only time I
have had one fail is when it goes hard, it doesn't do it's chinese finger
compresion, after it has been on the line for a few years. ...

Ken:
If it's the loop you're after I'd recommend a nail knot and a
small perfection loop instead of a braided loop and super glue.

I agree.
I tried braided loops a few years back, but quit trusting them when one came
off while I was cleaning the line.

Because I do find it convenient to have a loop at the end of the line, I
nail-knot a short section of .017" mono to the line, with a perfection loop
at the end.
Costs less than five cents, plus a little bit of my time, and will probably
outlast the fly line.

Besides, nail knots "build character."


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Laramie, Wyoming