Spade V's Eyed Hooks - Your opinions

In article , Tench Ninja
wrote:
:Sounds like you are using a relatively thick, springy line. Try something

I was using 5lb Maxima chameleon Mono (which is 0.20mm dia), was only for
practice while I was learning the knot.
I'm now getting on fairly well with 3lb of same. which is 0.15mm dia.

OK

The whole whipping away from the spade is confusing me..
Does it provide a more secure knot?

Er, dunno. If it's not secure add another turn.

And is it simply a matter of starting the knot as normal, but start the
whipping at the spade and work down the shank from there, resulting in the
line doubled under the whipping.. If you get me?

More or less, take the extra loop round the shank if you want to anchor it.
As long as all the strands lie together the knot has to expand to draw -
which it can't if the whip is tight.

Cheerio,

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Thanks very much all...
Answered all my queries.

use a drennan hook tier, so simple
"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
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In article , Tench Ninja
wrote:
So folks

What are the benifits in the different hook types. ie. Spade end v's
Eyed.

Pretty much of a muchness. Spades make for a neater knot (but you can use
the same knot on an eyed hook if you like) and eyed hooks are easier to
tie
in the dark or with very cold hands..

Worms are damaged less by a spade and big paste/bread baits stay better on
an eye.

I'm tying a tucked Half Blood Knot on my eyed hooks and the spade end
knot
as per this site
http://www.floatsgone.btinternet.co....adeendknot.htm
It doesnt specify how many times that you have to go around the hook, I
have
tried between 5 and 10 with the knot becoming less secure the more turns
there are....

Sounds like you are using a relatively thick, springy line. Try something
thinner. I tend to tie spades the other way up btw - whipping away from
the
spade but the knot shown should be secure as long as you control it well
when tightening it.

I personally have found the tucked half blood both easier to tie and
more
secure. One out of every three of my spade knots just slips off of the
top
of the hook..

So are there any benifits to either hook type, or are there different
knots
that I should be trying, or am I doing it way wrong.

Find something that suits you and stick with if for a while. It really
doesn't make all that much difference. Come back and try again when you
feel ready.

Cheerio,

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In article , Michael Stokes
wrote:
use a drennan hook tier, so simple

By the time you've found the thing. inserted the hook tied it, trimmed it,
and put the tier away you could have tied two without.

Cheerio,

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 22:28:04 +0100, "Derek.Moody"
wrote:

In article , Michael Stokes
wrote:
use a drennan hook tier, so simple

By the time you've found the thing. inserted the hook tied it, trimmed it,
and put the tier away you could have tied two without.

Cheerio,
I tye mine 7 days in advance (if I need any tying of course).