Dries for droppers

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:15:06 +0300, Jarmo Hurri
wrote:


I had to give up the use of strike indicators. The social pressure was
just too hard. (I must admit that I also found it a bit suspicious
myself.)

Since I still want to catch fish with nymphs from longer distances,
I'm thinking of starting to use droppers with dries (which is much
more acceptable). However, I'm not familiar with many good dry fly
patterns for this purpose. That is, those dries that float extremely
well. The only one I know is Goddard caddis.

What kind of patterns do you use?

Stimulator!

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:15:06 +0300, Jarmo Hurri
wrote:


I had to give up the use of strike indicators. The social pressure was
just too hard. (I must admit that I also found it a bit suspicious
myself.)

Since I still want to catch fish with nymphs from longer distances,
I'm thinking of starting to use droppers with dries (which is much
more acceptable). However, I'm not familiar with many good dry fly
patterns for this purpose. That is, those dries that float extremely
well. The only one I know is Goddard caddis.

What kind of patterns do you use?

Stimulator!

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:15:06 +0300, Jarmo Hurri
wrote:


I had to give up the use of strike indicators. The social pressure was
just too hard. (I must admit that I also found it a bit suspicious
myself.)

Since I still want to catch fish with nymphs from longer distances,
I'm thinking of starting to use droppers with dries (which is much
more acceptable). However, I'm not familiar with many good dry fly
patterns for this purpose. That is, those dries that float extremely
well. The only one I know is Goddard caddis.

What kind of patterns do you use?


I usually use a bushy Elk Hair Caddis and I do tie some of them in
bright orange (and have caught fish on same). But as has been said
already any good floating fly should work as long as you don't use a
heavily weighted nymph. I've fished small Pheasant Tail nymphs behind
snowshoe hares foot emergers (both size 22s) during the September BWO
hatch and it has been a fantastic combo.

g.c.

so how does everyone attache the flies on the bend of the dry or by tying a
dropper loop or something else
i find i get a few tangles using the royal wullf for the dry on a dropper
loop have never tried on the bend is it just as effective/less prone to
tangle?
"Jarmo Hurri" wrote in message
...

I had to give up the use of strike indicators. The social pressure was
just too hard. (I must admit that I also found it a bit suspicious
myself.)

Since I still want to catch fish with nymphs from longer distances,
I'm thinking of starting to use droppers with dries (which is much
more acceptable). However, I'm not familiar with many good dry fly
patterns for this purpose. That is, those dries that float extremely
well. The only one I know is Goddard caddis.

What kind of patterns do you use?

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so how does everyone attache the flies on the bend of the dry or by tying a
dropper loop or something else
i find i get a few tangles using the royal wullf for the dry on a dropper
loop have never tried on the bend is it just as effective/less prone to
tangle?
"Jarmo Hurri" wrote in message
...

I had to give up the use of strike indicators. The social pressure was
just too hard. (I must admit that I also found it a bit suspicious
myself.)

Since I still want to catch fish with nymphs from longer distances,
I'm thinking of starting to use droppers with dries (which is much
more acceptable). However, I'm not familiar with many good dry fly
patterns for this purpose. That is, those dries that float extremely
well. The only one I know is Goddard caddis.

What kind of patterns do you use?

--
Jarmo Hurri

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I prefer tieing the dropper through the eye of the dry fly. I will sometimes
tie it to the hook of the dry fly, but only if the eye of the dry fly is
clogged.

Tim Lysyk

"David Weall" wrote in message
...
so how does everyone attache the flies on the bend of the dry or by tying
a
dropper loop or something else
i find i get a few tangles using the royal wullf for the dry on a dropper
loop have never tried on the bend is it just as effective/less prone to
tangle?

The most popular way by far in New Zealand is simply to tie the dropper
directly to the bend of the dry fly.

Clark Reid

"Tim Lysyk" wrote in message
news:hn2Ic.31811$eO.7216@edtnps89...
I prefer tieing the dropper through the eye of the dry fly. I will
sometimes
tie it to the hook of the dry fly, but only if the eye of the dry fly is
clogged.

Tim Lysyk

"David Weall" wrote in message
...
so how does everyone attache the flies on the bend of the dry or by
tying
a
dropper loop or something else
i find i get a few tangles using the royal wullf for the dry on a
dropper
loop have never tried on the bend is it just as effective/less prone to
tangle?

The most popular way by far in New Zealand is simply to tie the dropper
directly to the bend of the dry fly.

Clark Reid

"Tim Lysyk" wrote in message
news:hn2Ic.31811$eO.7216@edtnps89...
I prefer tieing the dropper through the eye of the dry fly. I will
sometimes
tie it to the hook of the dry fly, but only if the eye of the dry fly is
clogged.

Tim Lysyk

"David Weall" wrote in message
...
so how does everyone attache the flies on the bend of the dry or by
tying
a
dropper loop or something else
i find i get a few tangles using the royal wullf for the dry on a
dropper
loop have never tried on the bend is it just as effective/less prone to
tangle?

I don't, (see above), but those who do use big stimulators
in yellow or orange.

On the big tailwater rivers here in Montana (Missouri, Big Horn) you often
want to fish with small dry flies--that I can't see--especially on
the breezy, overcast days, when the fishing is usually at its best.

So I like to fish an extra-bushy #16 or #18 Pale Morning Dun or even
a Royal Wulff (that I can see) with 24" of tippet behind that (tied to
the bend of the hook)....with a smaller, essentially invisible dryfly at
the end.

So the bobber fly doesn't necessarily have to be a big Stimulator.
Sometimes a #16 PMD accomplishes the same thing. The bobber fly won't
catch as many fish as the itty bitty out at the end of the line.
But it will catch fish, which is something no foam or yarn indicator
has ever accomplished yet.

"Salmo Bytes" wrote in message
om...
I don't, (see above), but those who do use big stimulators
in yellow or orange.

(stuff snipped)

Sometimes a #16 PMD accomplishes the same thing. The bobber fly won't
catch as many fish as the itty bitty out at the end of the line.
But it will catch fish, which is something no foam or yarn indicator
has ever accomplished yet.

Hi "Salmo",
Heh . . .heh . . .my best combination lately has been a size 18-22 dry with
a 22-24 dropper. (but of course, I'm out here in the wilderness) Sometimes
have to trash any dropper setup and just go to a 22-24 dry. Must be the
environment I enjoy. (it is a burden)
Starting to goof around with more of the foam patterns, you play with.
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver
( but I don't rule out those big foamy things out here this time of year,
for indicators . . .and sometimes that has to be the only fly . . .the big
guys don't like the extra stuff attached when they are somewhat persnickety)