Steelhead flies

I am going steelhead fishing for the first time and was wondering if any
of you could suggest flies. So far I have been looking at several of
the "standards," but there is a lot of flies that I am unaware of and
don't know what sizes I need to tie. I spoke with "someone in the
know" at the local shop and they told me to #6s because sizes change
during the year or some such crap. I don't know **** and so wasn't
ready to argue......

Flies I am thinking of tying a

Green Butt Black Bears
Black Doses
Blue Charms
Coal Cars
Freight Trains
Highlanders
Krystal Eggs
Ponoi Greens and Reds
Signal Lights
Undertakers

Is that a decent selection or are more needed? Do I need more sizes
other than #6s? Having just one size sounds funky to me...... Anybody
have any suggestions on other cool flies I should consider?
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Warren
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"Warren" wrote in message
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I am going steelhead fishing for the first time and was wondering if any
of you could suggest flies. So far I have been looking at several of
the "standards," but there is a lot of flies that I am unaware of and
don't know what sizes I need to tie. I spoke with "someone in the
know" at the local shop and they told me to #6s because sizes change
during the year or some such crap. I don't know **** and so wasn't
ready to argue......

Flies I am thinking of tying a

Green Butt Black Bears
Black Doses
Blue Charms
Coal Cars
Freight Trains
Highlanders
Krystal Eggs
Ponoi Greens and Reds
Signal Lights
Undertakers

Is that a decent selection or are more needed? Do I need more sizes
other than #6s? Having just one size sounds funky to me...... Anybody
have any suggestions on other cool flies I should consider?
--
Warren
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One of my favorites is
http://www.westfly.com/patterns/stee...etwalker.shtml

Sometimes with pink legs for more action. It can be tied larger for darker
water, as the dark purple will silhouette well, yet the flash is dynamic on
a sunny day.

bugcaster wrote...
snipped good info for a newbie, mainly ME
Sometimes with pink legs for more action. It can be tied larger for darker
water, as the dark purple will silhouette well, yet the flash is dynamic on
a sunny day.

Thanks a bunch!

So is there any truth to size of flies and time of year/run? Knowing
the mystery that surrounds this type of fishing, it wouldn't surprise me
one bit if this were some sort of lore. Based upon your experience, is
there any truth to it?
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So is there any truth to size of flies and time of year/run? Knowing
the mystery that surrounds this type of fishing, it wouldn't surprise me
one bit if this were some sort of lore. Based upon your experience, is
there any truth to it?
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I'd say that Chas and Bob Weinberger have more experience than I. I've
heard about water conditions, not time of year. Even in the August heat,
when you would assume water would be clear, the White River can dump silt
laden water into the Deschutes so a larger fly might be used down river.
The Coastal waters have that nice steelhead green during the winter as they
are dropping and clearing, so the test for me has always been the color of
the water, not season. But then, I don't catch that many anyway. );

I checked out Bob's latest adventure on the Klickitat from another site, and
I'd say he is the master on steelhead. Hopefully he will post a TR on his
float.

Sucker spawn is a favorite here in Northwestern PA.

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:31:36 -0600, Warren wrote:

I am going steelhead fishing for the first time and was wondering if any
of you could suggest flies. So far I have been looking at several of
the "standards," but there is a lot of flies that I am unaware of and
don't know what sizes I need to tie. I spoke with "someone in the
know" at the local shop and they told me to #6s because sizes change
during the year or some such crap. I don't know **** and so wasn't
ready to argue......

Flies I am thinking of tying a

Green Butt Black Bears
Black Doses
Blue Charms
Coal Cars
Freight Trains
Highlanders
Krystal Eggs
Ponoi Greens and Reds
Signal Lights
Undertakers

Is that a decent selection or are more needed? Do I need more sizes
other than #6s? Having just one size sounds funky to me...... Anybody
have any suggestions on other cool flies I should consider?

Sucker spawn is a favorite here in Northwestern PA.

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:31:36 -0600, Warren wrote:

I am going steelhead fishing for the first time and was wondering if any
of you could suggest flies. So far I have been looking at several of
the "standards," but there is a lot of flies that I am unaware of and
don't know what sizes I need to tie. I spoke with "someone in the
know" at the local shop and they told me to #6s because sizes change
during the year or some such crap. I don't know **** and so wasn't
ready to argue......

Flies I am thinking of tying a

Green Butt Black Bears
Black Doses
Blue Charms
Coal Cars
Freight Trains
Highlanders
Krystal Eggs
Ponoi Greens and Reds
Signal Lights
Undertakers

Is that a decent selection or are more needed? Do I need more sizes
other than #6s? Having just one size sounds funky to me...... Anybody
have any suggestions on other cool flies I should consider?

You have a pretty good selection. I would scratch the Ponois and get the
rest of the Randall Kauffman flies. You have three of them, Coal Car,
Signal light and Freight train. There are a few more. Two very good flies
that you don't have are Purple Peril and Fly de Jour. you should have a lot
of black flies, and purple fles, both with white and black wings.
Re size, I would go primarily with 4's, except if the water is very low.
Then you should have some 6's or low water 4's (much more lightly dressed).
Most peole beleive that the color of the fly is not important. Other people
say any color as long as it is black or purple.



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"Warren" wrote in message
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I am going steelhead fishing for the first time and was wondering if any
of you could suggest flies. So far I have been looking at several of
the "standards," but there is a lot of flies that I am unaware of and
don't know what sizes I need to tie. I spoke with "someone in the
know" at the local shop and they told me to #6s because sizes change
during the year or some such crap. I don't know **** and so wasn't
ready to argue......

Flies I am thinking of tying a

Green Butt Black Bears
Black Doses
Blue Charms
Coal Cars
Freight Trains
Highlanders
Krystal Eggs
Ponoi Greens and Reds
Signal Lights
Undertakers

Is that a decent selection or are more needed? Do I need more sizes
other than #6s? Having just one size sounds funky to me...... Anybody
have any suggestions on other cool flies I should consider?
--
Warren
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You have a pretty good selection. I would scratch the Ponois and get the
rest of the Randall Kauffman flies. You have three of them, Coal Car,
Signal light and Freight train. There are a few more. Two very good flies
that you don't have are Purple Peril and Fly de Jour. you should have a lot
of black flies, and purple fles, both with white and black wings.
Re size, I would go primarily with 4's, except if the water is very low.
Then you should have some 6's or low water 4's (much more lightly dressed).
Most peole beleive that the color of the fly is not important. Other people
say any color as long as it is black or purple.



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"Warren" wrote in message
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I am going steelhead fishing for the first time and was wondering if any
of you could suggest flies. So far I have been looking at several of
the "standards," but there is a lot of flies that I am unaware of and
don't know what sizes I need to tie. I spoke with "someone in the
know" at the local shop and they told me to #6s because sizes change
during the year or some such crap. I don't know **** and so wasn't
ready to argue......

Flies I am thinking of tying a

Green Butt Black Bears
Black Doses
Blue Charms
Coal Cars
Freight Trains
Highlanders
Krystal Eggs
Ponoi Greens and Reds
Signal Lights
Undertakers

Is that a decent selection or are more needed? Do I need more sizes
other than #6s? Having just one size sounds funky to me...... Anybody
have any suggestions on other cool flies I should consider?
--
Warren
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Here in Michigan I use a lot of brown and black. I also go a day or to
before i goto a river i dont normaly fish and look at the insects, bugs
things in the water and tye to match. Also for every thing expt samon i tie
all my flies size 8 or smaller.

Here in Michigan I use a lot of brown and black. I also go a day or to
before i goto a river i dont normaly fish and look at the insects, bugs
things in the water and tye to match. Also for every thing expt samon i tie
all my flies size 8 or smaller.