Kistler Rods - What is the REAL shakedown?

I don't spend that much, more like $335 to $540. What I was trying to
convey was I could be convinced to spend up to a $1,000 if an all mighty rod
was to be born.

I am quite happy with my IMX, and GL3 rods. I did own GLXs too, before they
were stolen. I will probably buy at least 2 GLXs by spring. I use both
Shimano Chronarch and Curado reels, preferring the Chronarchs.

But when they release a high quality injection molded blank (which will
eliminate the need to spline a rod, plus other advantages), I will be in
line to be one of the first to own it. That puppy of a rod may just cost
close to $600 to $700 for the rod. But first, I may have to buy one of
these Kistler rods just to check it out.

--
Craig Baugher

You're right! I do owe you the chance to knock my socks off with a MR. In
March, I will contact you. I will want a 7' MH & H IMX blank. 10
Titanium/SiC guides. No coating
--
Craig Baugher

Let me know what you think of them! And if you still have a hankerin for a
IMX(Slate) custom made let me know!

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Craig" wrote in message
...
I don't spend that much, more like $335 to $540. What I was trying to
convey was I could be convinced to spend up to a $1,000 if an all mighty
rod
was to be born.

I am quite happy with my IMX, and GL3 rods. I did own GLXs too, before
they
were stolen. I will probably buy at least 2 GLXs by spring. I use both
Shimano Chronarch and Curado reels, preferring the Chronarchs.

But when they release a high quality injection molded blank (which will
eliminate the need to spline a rod, plus other advantages), I will be in
line to be one of the first to own it. That puppy of a rod may just cost
close to $600 to $700 for the rod. But first, I may have to buy one of
these Kistler rods just to check it out.

--
Craig Baugher

Maybe one Sunday I'll meet you at the bridge, and let you play with each
style he makes, cause I've got 'em all !

"Craig" wrote in message
...
You're right! I do owe you the chance to knock my socks off with a MR.
In
March, I will contact you. I will want a 7' MH & H IMX blank. 10
Titanium/SiC guides. No coating
--
Craig Baugher

Just to clear things up I'm not promoting these rods! I'm a St. Croix man
must of my rods are custom built with St. Croix blanks

"Craig" wrote in message
...
You're right! I do owe you the chance to knock my socks off with a MR.
In
March, I will contact you. I will want a 7' MH & H IMX blank. 10
Titanium/SiC guides. No coating
--
Craig Baugher

Whenever your ready Craig , And yes Jerry does own one or more of our
models. I will put his Rainshadow blanks up against a Loomis (Slate) blank
any day..hehehe!

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Craig" wrote in message
...
You're right! I do owe you the chance to knock my socks off with a MR.
In
March, I will contact you. I will want a 7' MH & H IMX blank. 10
Titanium/SiC guides. No coating
--
Craig Baugher

If you're looking for really super, well-built rods that aren't for
millionaires AJH, check out my newest sponsor's lineup at

http://www.furnacebayrods.com

These guys build an awesome rod at very realistic prices. They even build
their own blanks. I just got a 7'6" flipping stick from them, and although
the polar weather we're having has prohibited me from actually fishing with
it, it's performed darn-well in the old garage. I sit up on the casting
deck & practice pitching with it. It's got a great feel - can't wait to rip
some lips with it!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/



"AJH" wrote in message
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A $1000 for a combo, get real.You just maxed out my BS meter...





"If you go to bed stupid, you will wake up stupid"

Am I missing something here? I'm seeing a whole line of rods that range
from & 80 to $200, with the top of the line versions at under $300. How
does that make them overpriced? They look pretty sweet to me, and with guys
like Dave Dudley & Mark Tyler endorsing them I'd bet they're pretty sweet
sticks too.

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/



""The Shadow"" wrote in message
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Kistler rods have been around for some time now. I just finished reading
the
review in question , and sorry to say was not very impressed. First they
are
using a standard Fuji reel seat., all that is different is the locking
hood.
Its the same that any builder gets with these reelseats.Eliminating the
fore
grip will not give you any difference in sensitivity or feel. At
Millennium
Rods we use a graphite sleeve and cork hood . The cork does not usually
touch the blank with our hoods so there is no lose in sensitivity or feel.
The use of the titanium frame guides is now rather widespread also It's
not
necessarily the material of the frame that will dampen or stiffen a blank
..
But rather how "many" guides are used , and their placement on the
rod blank itself. I can and have designed rods using alconite rings with
regular S/S frames that weigh less than
a rod with the titanium frames.

While I am sure that Kistler makes a fine rod, IMHO they
are over priced.

Oh, and Craig if you don't mind dropping a grand on a combo, let's
talk..........hehehe! Course for that kind of change you could get at
least
(3) three MCR rods.

Dave Norton

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Roy Randolph" wrote in message
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You can read more about them here
http://www.tackletour.com/reviewkistlerlta.shtm

The one thing that is different is no cork in front of the real seat.
They
just put a winding check there, Next they use titanium guide frames and
if
you've ever priced these guides you'll know why is cost so much! Any rod
that claims to be light weight uses these guides and a few other tricks
like
no cork in front of the seat or like St. Croix they use Skeleton real
seats.

What it comes down to is that the difference in the weight of the blank
is
less then an ounce from blank to blank on these high end rods and most
people would never notice that difference.


"Gary Wilber" wrote in message
om...
Kistler is a great company to work with. It is owned by Trey Kistler
and you can call him up any time and talk to him. He will help you
pick out the right rod for any situation. I own four or five of the
standard rods, not the heliums. I like all of them. I believe they
are on a par with Loomis or anyone else. The other thing about Trey
is he is a Christian and makes a point that his company is a Christian
run company. That may not matter to some people but it was important
to me. I'm happy that someone has the courage to stand up for their
faith even if it means a loss of some sales.

I have talked with John Uhler. I told him about my bias towards G.Loomis
rods and asked him if his compared. He told me he, nor any of his sponsored
anglers will make any comparisons to other brand name rods. Quoting him:
"We are different, and I don't say better because better is a personal
perceived bias, or brand loyalty. All rod lines are different and depending
on what the customer wants, or his perception of what he wants, is what
makes a rod line the best for that individual. We are what we are. A bunch
of engineers with too much time on our hands and you know what happens when
you leave engineers to their imagination. . . We engineer differently and
we build each rod from scratch based on the customer needs. We don't
advertise much and aren't looking for too many dealers. We are customer
direct through word of mouth from our reps and pro-staff members and they
are actually doing the sales. Customers usually find us rather than going
after them."

Fair enough. I like the fact that John doesn't compare his products to any
other. I'm going to try one of his rod's too. For as I told John, I
wouldn't accept a sponsorship if I truly do not believe in the product. I
believe Warren to be the same type of person. So if Warren says he believes
in the product, it must meet all his expectations, and it is truly one of
the best rods he has every used.

--
Craig Baugher

I'll have my MR at the Southern Classic if you'd like to give it a try. Bill P.
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"Craig" wrote in message ...
You're right! I do owe you the chance to knock my socks off with a MR. In
March, I will contact you. I will want a 7' MH & H IMX blank. 10
Titanium/SiC guides. No coating
--
Craig Baugher