Teeny Nymph

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:37:01 +0100, "riverman"
wrote...:


"Sandy Birrell" wrote in message
k...
Sandy Birrell wrote:
hermit wrote:
I have been trying to tie the Jim Teeny Nymph and seem to run into
the same problem. I tie on the pheasant tail, wrap it clockwise
around the shank, but then the problems arise. By the time I get
the tail to the mid shank point the tail fibers are a twisted mess.
Trying to fold the fibers back to the hook point and tie it off is
darn near impossible as my fingers get stuck in the point. I
figured I would hide the hook point in the jaws of the vice, but
trying to even grab ahold of the fibers is difficult. Hackle pliers
won't hold the fibers. Same problem exists when I finish the nymph
with the second bunch of tail fibers that are wrapped to the eye. Any
ideas? Thanks

See the video on this site.


http://www.jimteeny.com/indexMain.ht...log/flies.html

--


Don`t Worry, Be Happy

Sandy

I forgot to add. It is under "Trips&Tips", and at the bottom of this page
"Tying Teeny Nymphs".


After scrolling through his page of flies for sale, I gotta say that here is
a guy who doesn't need to go to a lot of different shops to stock his tying
kit!! Talk about a one-trick pony! It better be a good trick...

I think that's why I'm in a funny frame of mind...

I was brought up on the clyde... you had to understand the fish and
their prey... Now, all I have to do is chuck a montana nymph into a pond
and retrieve it slowly. I might stick on a cast of buzzers for light
relief, but on the whole, I find that I have more success with things
that look unnatural than close imitations of what's on or in the H2O.

Refill? ...oh, go on then!#


John
"When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail."
-- Abraham Maslow

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:37:01 +0100, "riverman"
wrote...:


"Sandy Birrell" wrote in message
k...
Sandy Birrell wrote:
hermit wrote:
I have been trying to tie the Jim Teeny Nymph and seem to run into
the same problem. I tie on the pheasant tail, wrap it clockwise
around the shank, but then the problems arise. By the time I get
the tail to the mid shank point the tail fibers are a twisted mess.
Trying to fold the fibers back to the hook point and tie it off is
darn near impossible as my fingers get stuck in the point. I
figured I would hide the hook point in the jaws of the vice, but
trying to even grab ahold of the fibers is difficult. Hackle pliers
won't hold the fibers. Same problem exists when I finish the nymph
with the second bunch of tail fibers that are wrapped to the eye. Any
ideas? Thanks

See the video on this site.


http://www.jimteeny.com/indexMain.ht...log/flies.html

--


Don`t Worry, Be Happy

Sandy

I forgot to add. It is under "Trips&Tips", and at the bottom of this page
"Tying Teeny Nymphs".


After scrolling through his page of flies for sale, I gotta say that here is
a guy who doesn't need to go to a lot of different shops to stock his tying
kit!! Talk about a one-trick pony! It better be a good trick...

I think that's why I'm in a funny frame of mind...

I was brought up on the clyde... you had to understand the fish and
their prey... Now, all I have to do is chuck a montana nymph into a pond
and retrieve it slowly. I might stick on a cast of buzzers for light
relief, but on the whole, I find that I have more success with things
that look unnatural than close imitations of what's on or in the H2O.

Refill? ...oh, go on then!#


John
"When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail."
-- Abraham Maslow

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:57:27 +0100, "riverman"
wrote...:


"hermit" wrote in message
...

I have been trying to tie the Jim Teeny Nymph and seem to run into the
same problem. I tie on the pheasant tail, wrap it clockwise around
the shank, but then the problems arise. By the time I get the tail to
the mid shank point the tail fibers are a twisted mess. Trying to
fold the fibers back to the hook point and tie it off is darn near
impossible as my fingers get stuck in the point. I figured I would
hide the hook point in the jaws of the vice, but trying to even grab
ahold of the fibers is difficult. Hackle pliers won't hold the
fibers. Same problem exists when I finish the nymph with the second
bunch of tail fibers that are wrapped to the eye. Any ideas?


Biazarre as it sounds, why not try tying it in reverse? Tie it down with the
tips hanging, then wrap to the bend and secure? Then repeat for the other
group.

I'll try some tonight and see if I get a feel for anything.

Sounds sensible... Sorry... had to sully the thread with my foul,
powerbaitish scent.

I mean what is that all about? Fish don't eat modelling clay, no matter
how much pheromones or glitter you put in it!

Anybody know where I can get a time machine... cheap?


John
"When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail."
-- Abraham Maslow

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:57:27 +0100, "riverman"
wrote...:


"hermit" wrote in message
...

I have been trying to tie the Jim Teeny Nymph and seem to run into the
same problem. I tie on the pheasant tail, wrap it clockwise around
the shank, but then the problems arise. By the time I get the tail to
the mid shank point the tail fibers are a twisted mess. Trying to
fold the fibers back to the hook point and tie it off is darn near
impossible as my fingers get stuck in the point. I figured I would
hide the hook point in the jaws of the vice, but trying to even grab
ahold of the fibers is difficult. Hackle pliers won't hold the
fibers. Same problem exists when I finish the nymph with the second
bunch of tail fibers that are wrapped to the eye. Any ideas?


Biazarre as it sounds, why not try tying it in reverse? Tie it down with the
tips hanging, then wrap to the bend and secure? Then repeat for the other
group.

I'll try some tonight and see if I get a feel for anything.

Sounds sensible... Sorry... had to sully the thread with my foul,
powerbaitish scent.

I mean what is that all about? Fish don't eat modelling clay, no matter
how much pheromones or glitter you put in it!

Anybody know where I can get a time machine... cheap?


John
"When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail."
-- Abraham Maslow

"hermit" wrote in message
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I have been trying to tie the Jim Teeny Nymph and seem to run into the
same problem. I tie on the pheasant tail, wrap it clockwise around
the shank, but then the problems arise. By the time I get the tail to
the mid shank point the tail fibers are a twisted mess. Trying to
fold the fibers back to the hook point and tie it off is darn near
impossible as my fingers get stuck in the point. I figured I would
hide the hook point in the jaws of the vice, but trying to even grab
ahold of the fibers is difficult. Hackle pliers won't hold the
fibers. Same problem exists when I finish the nymph with the second
bunch of tail fibers that are wrapped to the eye. Any ideas?

Thanks

Hermit,
The Teeny Nymph i remember had a small piece of oblong heavy metal hanging
out the bottom of the pattern (to make it sink). It was a patented fly sold
in a cardboard backed, clear plastic front box (at G.I Joes). The only
"patented" fly i
remember seeing in the NW (probably tied in N. Korea). Nothing but a
Pheasant Tail dyed different colors with a piece of ugly black lead hanging
under it's gut (or should i say thorax?)
Don't waste your time tying a Teeny Nymph. A Pheasant Tail, tied properly,
is the same thing...but better.
Sorry Jim...
I was begat from a different "Camp"...born in the stream.
G

"hermit" wrote in message
...

I have been trying to tie the Jim Teeny Nymph and seem to run into the
same problem. I tie on the pheasant tail, wrap it clockwise around
the shank, but then the problems arise. By the time I get the tail to
the mid shank point the tail fibers are a twisted mess. Trying to
fold the fibers back to the hook point and tie it off is darn near
impossible as my fingers get stuck in the point. I figured I would
hide the hook point in the jaws of the vice, but trying to even grab
ahold of the fibers is difficult. Hackle pliers won't hold the
fibers. Same problem exists when I finish the nymph with the second
bunch of tail fibers that are wrapped to the eye. Any ideas?

Thanks

Hermit,
The Teeny Nymph i remember had a small piece of oblong heavy metal hanging
out the bottom of the pattern (to make it sink). It was a patented fly sold
in a cardboard backed, clear plastic front box (at G.I Joes). The only
"patented" fly i
remember seeing in the NW (probably tied in N. Korea). Nothing but a
Pheasant Tail dyed different colors with a piece of ugly black lead hanging
under it's gut (or should i say thorax?)
Don't waste your time tying a Teeny Nymph. A Pheasant Tail, tied properly,
is the same thing...but better.
Sorry Jim...
I was begat from a different "Camp"...born in the stream.
G

"Guy Thornberg" wrote in message
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"hermit" wrote in message
...

I have been trying to tie the Jim Teeny Nymph and seem to run into the
same problem. I tie on the pheasant tail, wrap it clockwise around
the shank, but then the problems arise. By the time I get the tail to
the mid shank point the tail fibers are a twisted mess. Trying to
fold the fibers back to the hook point and tie it off is darn near
impossible as my fingers get stuck in the point. I figured I would
hide the hook point in the jaws of the vice, but trying to even grab
ahold of the fibers is difficult. Hackle pliers won't hold the
fibers. Same problem exists when I finish the nymph with the second
bunch of tail fibers that are wrapped to the eye. Any ideas?

Thanks

Hermit,
The Teeny Nymph i remember had a small piece of oblong heavy metal hanging
out the bottom of the pattern (to make it sink). It was a patented fly
sold
in a cardboard backed, clear plastic front box (at G.I Joes). The only
"patented" fly i
remember seeing in the NW (probably tied in N. Korea). Nothing but a
Pheasant Tail dyed different colors with a piece of ugly black lead
hanging
under it's gut (or should i say thorax?)
Don't waste your time tying a Teeny Nymph. A Pheasant Tail, tied properly,
is the same thing...but better.
Sorry Jim...
I was begat from a different "Camp"...born in the stream.
G


And, as always, tie sparsely,
G

"Guy Thornberg" wrote in message
...

"hermit" wrote in message
...

I have been trying to tie the Jim Teeny Nymph and seem to run into the
same problem. I tie on the pheasant tail, wrap it clockwise around
the shank, but then the problems arise. By the time I get the tail to
the mid shank point the tail fibers are a twisted mess. Trying to
fold the fibers back to the hook point and tie it off is darn near
impossible as my fingers get stuck in the point. I figured I would
hide the hook point in the jaws of the vice, but trying to even grab
ahold of the fibers is difficult. Hackle pliers won't hold the
fibers. Same problem exists when I finish the nymph with the second
bunch of tail fibers that are wrapped to the eye. Any ideas?

Thanks

Hermit,
The Teeny Nymph i remember had a small piece of oblong heavy metal hanging
out the bottom of the pattern (to make it sink). It was a patented fly
sold
in a cardboard backed, clear plastic front box (at G.I Joes). The only
"patented" fly i
remember seeing in the NW (probably tied in N. Korea). Nothing but a
Pheasant Tail dyed different colors with a piece of ugly black lead
hanging
under it's gut (or should i say thorax?)
Don't waste your time tying a Teeny Nymph. A Pheasant Tail, tied properly,
is the same thing...but better.
Sorry Jim...
I was begat from a different "Camp"...born in the stream.
G


And, as always, tie sparsely,
G

"Guy Thornberg" wrote:

"hermit" wrote in message
.. .
Hermit,
The Teeny Nymph i remember had a small piece of oblong heavy metal
hanging
out the bottom of the pattern (to make it sink). It was a patented fly
sold
in a cardboard backed, clear plastic front box (at G.I Joes). The only
"patented" fly i
remember seeing in the NW (probably tied in N. Korea). Nothing but a
Pheasant Tail dyed different colors with a piece of ugly black lead
hanging
under it's gut (or should i say thorax?)
Don't waste your time tying a Teeny Nymph. A Pheasant Tail, tied
properly,
is the same thing...but better.
Sorry Jim...
I was begat from a different "Camp"...born in the stream.
G

Guy,

I remember that thing too, but it was actually a plactic tag that was
to be removed before fishing. The fly is quite different from a
pheasant tail, it does a better job of imitating a caddis than a
mayfly, and it's simplicity is often it's strength.

Chas
remove fly fish to reply
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"Guy Thornberg" wrote:

"hermit" wrote in message
.. .
Hermit,
The Teeny Nymph i remember had a small piece of oblong heavy metal
hanging
out the bottom of the pattern (to make it sink). It was a patented fly
sold
in a cardboard backed, clear plastic front box (at G.I Joes). The only
"patented" fly i
remember seeing in the NW (probably tied in N. Korea). Nothing but a
Pheasant Tail dyed different colors with a piece of ugly black lead
hanging
under it's gut (or should i say thorax?)
Don't waste your time tying a Teeny Nymph. A Pheasant Tail, tied
properly,
is the same thing...but better.
Sorry Jim...
I was begat from a different "Camp"...born in the stream.
G

Guy,

I remember that thing too, but it was actually a plactic tag that was
to be removed before fishing. The fly is quite different from a
pheasant tail, it does a better job of imitating a caddis than a
mayfly, and it's simplicity is often it's strength.

Chas
remove fly fish to reply
http://home.comcast.net/~chas.wade/w...ome.html-.html
San Juan Pictures at:
http://home.comcast.net/~chasepike/wsb/index.html