The Electoral system

On 07 Nov 2004 22:55:45 GMT, ojunk (George Adams) wrote:

From: Charlie Choc

It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.

It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere.

They do that now, but mostly just for fund raisers.

A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency.

Actually, they majority of voters would decide it regardless of where they
lived. The presidency is a national office, the states already have senators
and congressmen to advance their specific agendas.
--
Charlie...
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George Adams wrote:
From: Charlie Choc


It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.


It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere. A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency. I say leave the electoral college alone, but
improve and standardize the voting system to insure fairness and eliminate
controversy.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

If I were to champion any changes to the Electoral College, I would
consider that which Colorado attempted to pass...make it proportional to
the state's voting population. Consider this; let's say for argument's
sake that California had exactly 1 million voters and as it turns out in
this example, 499,999 vote Demorat and 500,001 vote Republican. For that
one voter's majority, the entire state's electoral votes go to the
GOPers. Hardly fair in my opinion. It should not be, in my opinion,
winner takes all. Something to think about?

Philski

George Adams wrote:
From: Charlie Choc


It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.


It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere. A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency. I say leave the electoral college alone, but
improve and standardize the voting system to insure fairness and eliminate
controversy.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

If I were to champion any changes to the Electoral College, I would
consider that which Colorado attempted to pass...make it proportional to
the state's voting population. Consider this; let's say for argument's
sake that California had exactly 1 million voters and as it turns out in
this example, 499,999 vote Demorat and 500,001 vote Republican. For that
one voter's majority, the entire state's electoral votes go to the
GOPers. Hardly fair in my opinion. It should not be, in my opinion,
winner takes all. Something to think about?

Philski

George Adams wrote:
From: Charlie Choc


It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.


It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere. A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency. I say leave the electoral college alone, but
improve and standardize the voting system to insure fairness and eliminate
controversy.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

If I were to champion any changes to the Electoral College, I would
consider that which Colorado attempted to pass...make it proportional to
the state's voting population. Consider this; let's say for argument's
sake that California had exactly 1 million voters and as it turns out in
this example, 499,999 vote Demorat and 500,001 vote Republican. For that
one voter's majority, the entire state's electoral votes go to the
GOPers. Hardly fair in my opinion. It should not be, in my opinion,
winner takes all. Something to think about?

Philski

What? And let the peoples' vote count? End pork barrel to the large
electoral vote states?

And force all to read history before voting?

How does it work in Australia?

.... The present system is not about government, it is about party
perpetuation.


john
"rw" wrote in message
m...
In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

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What? And let the peoples' vote count? End pork barrel to the large
electoral vote states?

And force all to read history before voting?

How does it work in Australia?

.... The present system is not about government, it is about party
perpetuation.


john
"rw" wrote in message
m...
In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 00:06:10 GMT, "asadi...."
wrote:

What? And let the peoples' vote count? End pork barrel to the large
electoral vote states?

And force all to read history before voting?

How does it work in Australia?

... The present system is not about government, it is about party
perpetuation.

Ya, it's interesting how differentiated rights are OK when it's the
Electoral College we're discussing but wrong when it's affirmative
action or gay rights, or whatever. It's kinda hard to take when
differentiated rights are OK as long as it's the other guy's ox that
is getting gored. (Don't worry, we have the same bull****, different
flavour, in Canuckistanni land. We're no better.)

Peter

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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 00:06:10 GMT, "asadi...."
wrote:

What? And let the peoples' vote count? End pork barrel to the large
electoral vote states?

And force all to read history before voting?

How does it work in Australia?

... The present system is not about government, it is about party
perpetuation.

Ya, it's interesting how differentiated rights are OK when it's the
Electoral College we're discussing but wrong when it's affirmative
action or gay rights, or whatever. It's kinda hard to take when
differentiated rights are OK as long as it's the other guy's ox that
is getting gored. (Don't worry, we have the same bull****, different
flavour, in Canuckistanni land. We're no better.)

Peter

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
...Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

It is. But, if we're going to reform it......you know bring it all the way
up to the nineteenth century or something.....what the hell, why not just do
away with this silly bull**** rotating monarchy altogether?

The possibilities are endless........heck, we could even give democracy a
try. People have been talking about it for centuries; why not see if it
works?

Wolfgang
i mean, really, what have we got to lose?

"rw" wrote in message
m...
...Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

It is. But, if we're going to reform it......you know bring it all the way
up to the nineteenth century or something.....what the hell, why not just do
away with this silly bull**** rotating monarchy altogether?

The possibilities are endless........heck, we could even give democracy a
try. People have been talking about it for centuries; why not see if it
works?

Wolfgang
i mean, really, what have we got to lose?