Trinity Steelhead pic

Peter Charles wrote:

Nice tail, but isnt the fish a bit thin? Did you release him/her again?




You guys are pretty rough on Tom!

I think it's an outstanding fish especially first time and from such
small water.
Very cool, Tom.

Willi




I don't think anyone is being hard at all. Tom is obviously
enthusiastic and wants to learn so people are providing additional
info.


It was the guy's first fish! I never caught a Steelhead. I thought it
was ****in' cool.

Don't ya think

"Nice tail, but isnt the fish a bit thin? Did you release him/her again?"

as a total post directed toward a guy's first fish is being a bit anal?

Willi

Peter Charles wrote:

Nice tail, but isnt the fish a bit thin? Did you release him/her again?




You guys are pretty rough on Tom!

I think it's an outstanding fish especially first time and from such
small water.
Very cool, Tom.

Willi




I don't think anyone is being hard at all. Tom is obviously
enthusiastic and wants to learn so people are providing additional
info.


It was the guy's first fish! I never caught a Steelhead. I thought it
was ****in' cool.

Don't ya think

"Nice tail, but isnt the fish a bit thin? Did you release him/her again?"

as a total post directed toward a guy's first fish is being a bit anal?

Willi

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:40:04 -0700, Willi & Sue
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote:

Nice tail, but isnt the fish a bit thin? Did you release him/her again?




You guys are pretty rough on Tom!

I think it's an outstanding fish especially first time and from such
small water.
Very cool, Tom.

Willi




I don't think anyone is being hard at all. Tom is obviously
enthusiastic and wants to learn so people are providing additional
info.


It was the guy's first fish! I never caught a Steelhead. I thought it
was ****in' cool.

Don't ya think

"Nice tail, but isnt the fish a bit thin? Did you release him/her again?"

as a total post directed toward a guy's first fish is being a bit anal?

Willi


OK, the crack about the tail being thin was a bit of a cheap shot --
I'll give ya that one, but only because I'm a nice guy.

Peter

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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:40:04 -0700, Willi & Sue
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote:

Nice tail, but isnt the fish a bit thin? Did you release him/her again?




You guys are pretty rough on Tom!

I think it's an outstanding fish especially first time and from such
small water.
Very cool, Tom.

Willi




I don't think anyone is being hard at all. Tom is obviously
enthusiastic and wants to learn so people are providing additional
info.


It was the guy's first fish! I never caught a Steelhead. I thought it
was ****in' cool.

Don't ya think

"Nice tail, but isnt the fish a bit thin? Did you release him/her again?"

as a total post directed toward a guy's first fish is being a bit anal?

Willi


OK, the crack about the tail being thin was a bit of a cheap shot --
I'll give ya that one, but only because I'm a nice guy.

Peter

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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:35:41 -0700, Willi & Sue
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote:

Heavier tackle and low
risk photo techniques are better for C&R.


That was my argument against 7X, I guess I don't understand your point?

Willi



My point was that 7 X FC provides enough strength to land the typical
resident trout within a reasonable period of time because the vast
majority of resident trout can't put that much pressure against the
tip of a rod and neither can the angler if the rod is held high. The
problem arises when the rod tip drops and the fish is played on the
reel and the butt. I can't palm a reel with the delicacy that the rod
tip can provide, and I doubt I'm alone with this inadequacy..

We should be able to land a fish that weighs about three times the
rated strength of our tippet. So, we should be able to land a 5 lb.
fish with 2.7 lb. tippet without a problem.



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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:35:41 -0700, Willi & Sue
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote:

Heavier tackle and low
risk photo techniques are better for C&R.


That was my argument against 7X, I guess I don't understand your point?

Willi



My point was that 7 X FC provides enough strength to land the typical
resident trout within a reasonable period of time because the vast
majority of resident trout can't put that much pressure against the
tip of a rod and neither can the angler if the rod is held high. The
problem arises when the rod tip drops and the fish is played on the
reel and the butt. I can't palm a reel with the delicacy that the rod
tip can provide, and I doubt I'm alone with this inadequacy..

We should be able to land a fish that weighs about three times the
rated strength of our tippet. So, we should be able to land a 5 lb.
fish with 2.7 lb. tippet without a problem.



Peter

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Peter Charles wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:35:41 -0700, Willi & Sue
wrote:


Peter Charles wrote:

Heavier tackle and low

risk photo techniques are better for C&R.


That was my argument against 7X, I guess I don't understand your point?

Willi




My point was that 7 X FC provides enough strength to land the typical
resident trout within a reasonable period of time because the vast
majority of resident trout can't put that much pressure against the
tip of a rod and neither can the angler if the rod is held high. The
problem arises when the rod tip drops and the fish is played on the
reel and the butt. I can't palm a reel with the delicacy that the rod
tip can provide, and I doubt I'm alone with this inadequacy..

We should be able to land a fish that weighs about three times the
rated strength of our tippet. So, we should be able to land a 5 lb.
fish with 2.7 lb. tippet without a problem.


What confuses me is that you told Tom to use heavier equipment. 4x
tippet runns about 7 lbs. Using your formula, that's adequate for a 20
pound fish. I'm guessing he wasn't fishing over anything nearly that
big. (not that I agree with your formula)

Willi

Peter Charles wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:35:41 -0700, Willi & Sue
wrote:


Peter Charles wrote:

Heavier tackle and low

risk photo techniques are better for C&R.


That was my argument against 7X, I guess I don't understand your point?

Willi




My point was that 7 X FC provides enough strength to land the typical
resident trout within a reasonable period of time because the vast
majority of resident trout can't put that much pressure against the
tip of a rod and neither can the angler if the rod is held high. The
problem arises when the rod tip drops and the fish is played on the
reel and the butt. I can't palm a reel with the delicacy that the rod
tip can provide, and I doubt I'm alone with this inadequacy..

We should be able to land a fish that weighs about three times the
rated strength of our tippet. So, we should be able to land a 5 lb.
fish with 2.7 lb. tippet without a problem.


What confuses me is that you told Tom to use heavier equipment. 4x
tippet runns about 7 lbs. Using your formula, that's adequate for a 20
pound fish. I'm guessing he wasn't fishing over anything nearly that
big. (not that I agree with your formula)

Willi

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 17:07:24 -0700, Willi & Sue
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:35:41 -0700, Willi & Sue
wrote:


Peter Charles wrote:

Heavier tackle and low

risk photo techniques are better for C&R.


That was my argument against 7X, I guess I don't understand your point?

Willi




My point was that 7 X FC provides enough strength to land the typical
resident trout within a reasonable period of time because the vast
majority of resident trout can't put that much pressure against the
tip of a rod and neither can the angler if the rod is held high. The
problem arises when the rod tip drops and the fish is played on the
reel and the butt. I can't palm a reel with the delicacy that the rod
tip can provide, and I doubt I'm alone with this inadequacy..

We should be able to land a fish that weighs about three times the
rated strength of our tippet. So, we should be able to land a 5 lb.
fish with 2.7 lb. tippet without a problem.


What confuses me is that you told Tom to use heavier equipment. 4x
tippet runns about 7 lbs. Using your formula, that's adequate for a 20
pound fish. I'm guessing he wasn't fishing over anything nearly that
big. (not that I agree with your formula)

Willi



4X isn't the problem, a 6 wt. singole hander is. I land much larger
steelies on 4X but I'm not using a little, wimpy six weight when I do
it. Those steelies in the photos I posted were landed on the
equivalent of 4X.

Peter

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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 17:07:24 -0700, Willi & Sue
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:35:41 -0700, Willi & Sue
wrote:


Peter Charles wrote:

Heavier tackle and low

risk photo techniques are better for C&R.


That was my argument against 7X, I guess I don't understand your point?

Willi




My point was that 7 X FC provides enough strength to land the typical
resident trout within a reasonable period of time because the vast
majority of resident trout can't put that much pressure against the
tip of a rod and neither can the angler if the rod is held high. The
problem arises when the rod tip drops and the fish is played on the
reel and the butt. I can't palm a reel with the delicacy that the rod
tip can provide, and I doubt I'm alone with this inadequacy..

We should be able to land a fish that weighs about three times the
rated strength of our tippet. So, we should be able to land a 5 lb.
fish with 2.7 lb. tippet without a problem.


What confuses me is that you told Tom to use heavier equipment. 4x
tippet runns about 7 lbs. Using your formula, that's adequate for a 20
pound fish. I'm guessing he wasn't fishing over anything nearly that
big. (not that I agree with your formula)

Willi



4X isn't the problem, a 6 wt. singole hander is. I land much larger
steelies on 4X but I'm not using a little, wimpy six weight when I do
it. Those steelies in the photos I posted were landed on the
equivalent of 4X.

Peter

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