tying tools, magnifier

Having reached the point where I wish to tie something besides wooly buggers
I have decided to concentrate on the caddis.

Buggers, in their variations and methods of fishing are the number one bait,
IMHO, for smallmouth bass.

Although I am sure many conflicting opinions exist, I have about reached
that opinion for caddis and trout.

In any event, I am not nor never will be a professional tier. I am not nor
will be a tier whose flies are works of art, pretty to look at or even merit
showing to others. I am still using the tools and necks I got in the Cabelas
kit ten years ago and just purchased another kit (the same) from ebay.

So please, do not assume that I am in the market for the 'hot' set-up. What
I am in the market for is something to help me see a little better. I need a
magnifier.

I have looked at Bass pro
http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...rTarget=search

and Cabelas
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...requestid=6817

Also http://www.ezflyfish.com/mckenmag.html

I am thinking that the 'great big around' glass that swings out of the way
would be easier for me. If anyone would care to make a comment I would love
to here it. I would rather purchase a product from someone here or in ROFF
if at all possible.

....Oh great Hackle Masters this humble born of a dyed barnyard rooster neck
doth humbly beg your guidance......

john

Change 'bait' to 'fly' and 'here' to hear'

Change 'bait' to 'fly' and 'here' to hear'

John,
YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in the
ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My eyes
are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a
strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's.





George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

Well, I'm already into bi-focals....

What do you think of the flip up flip down kind of glasses that fit over
regular glasses,

The thingy you wear around your head?

Already wearing glasses kinda throws a wrench in the works..

john
"George Adams" wrote in message
...
John,
YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in
the
ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My
eyes
are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a
strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's.





George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only
dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

Well, I'm already into bi-focals....

What do you think of the flip up flip down kind of glasses that fit over
regular glasses,

The thingy you wear around your head?

Already wearing glasses kinda throws a wrench in the works..

john
"George Adams" wrote in message
...
John,
YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in
the
ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My
eyes
are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a
strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's.





George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only
dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

Well, I'm already into bi-focals....

What do you think of the flip up flip down kind of glasses that fit over
regular glasses,

The thingy you wear around your head?

Already wearing glasses kinda throws a wrench in the works..

john
"George Adams" wrote in message
...
John,
YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in
the
ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My
eyes
are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a
strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's.





George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only
dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

"asadi...." wrote

.. I need a
magnifier.



I use a cheap one on a goose neck and heavy pedestal that I got at a hobby
store ... 1/8" pipe has the same thread as the neck and I used some, and a
angle, to raise it off the pedestal a little and improve the "angle of
attack" to keep it more out of my way


I have a bigger one with a round florescent light around it too, but prefer
the cheapy

Mainly, I just wear cheater glasses, with them I can see well enough for 95%
of the operations/ flies, and I just pull the little magnifier down for the
finest detail and smallest flies

The most effective freestone waters caddis patterns that I use are not real
small, nor intricate, and work best when tied kinda funky looking and rough
.... you may not even need a magnifier

oh, oh, AND .... I recently visited my new eye doctor and discussing what
types of glasses to get ( new poloroids were first on the list ) I said
something about tying and clsoe work and a special pair .... the reply was
"Cheaters are probably just as good. Actually, LIGHTING will probably help
you more than anything, With good light, your pupils get smaller, and your
depth of field bigger, giving the impression of improved focus." I knew
this was true with cameras, but didn't know it worked that way for humans,
too. Anyway .... think OTT-LITE, ott-Lite, Ott, Lite .... if you don't use
one ( I understand there are now other brands of the same light, cheaper?),
get one, ..... trust me, just do it G

"asadi...." wrote

.. I need a
magnifier.



I use a cheap one on a goose neck and heavy pedestal that I got at a hobby
store ... 1/8" pipe has the same thread as the neck and I used some, and a
angle, to raise it off the pedestal a little and improve the "angle of
attack" to keep it more out of my way


I have a bigger one with a round florescent light around it too, but prefer
the cheapy

Mainly, I just wear cheater glasses, with them I can see well enough for 95%
of the operations/ flies, and I just pull the little magnifier down for the
finest detail and smallest flies

The most effective freestone waters caddis patterns that I use are not real
small, nor intricate, and work best when tied kinda funky looking and rough
.... you may not even need a magnifier

oh, oh, AND .... I recently visited my new eye doctor and discussing what
types of glasses to get ( new poloroids were first on the list ) I said
something about tying and clsoe work and a special pair .... the reply was
"Cheaters are probably just as good. Actually, LIGHTING will probably help
you more than anything, With good light, your pupils get smaller, and your
depth of field bigger, giving the impression of improved focus." I knew
this was true with cameras, but didn't know it worked that way for humans,
too. Anyway .... think OTT-LITE, ott-Lite, Ott, Lite .... if you don't use
one ( I understand there are now other brands of the same light, cheaper?),
get one, ..... trust me, just do it G

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:08:22 GMT, "asadi...."
wrote:

Well, I'm already into bi-focals....

What do you think of the flip up flip down kind of glasses that fit over
regular glasses,

The thingy you wear around your head?

Already wearing glasses kinda throws a wrench in the works..

I use +2 reading glasses when I'm wearing my contacts, and just take my
glasses off for up close work when I'm not.
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