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Old February 16th, 2008, 01:57 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default So, OK, he's for change, he gives Chris Mathews a feeling "up his leg," and...

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:04:29 -0500, jeff miller
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wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:04:11 -0500, Jeff wrote:


wrote:



......there's more, but i suspect these will be sufficient for
your critique and counterpoints.


Look, I'm willing to give the man a chance if someone is willing to give
me a rational, objective reason as to why I should...

TC,
R


youth, intelligence, tolerance, gifted, persuasive, redemptive,
inspiring, unifying, empowering, thoughtful/insightful,


problem-solving skills


hope, hope, hope, symbolic power, listens, collaborative,
notbush, nothillaryclinton, notmccain, respect for balance of powers in
federal system, adapts and adjusts effectively, small government/big
government experience in elected office,


understands/recognizes racial.and socioeconomic problems from a
unique perspective,


OK...elaborate on the two singled out, above - convince me that it's not
just some grandiose idea or just something you pulled out of your ass
that sounds good.

not a washington dc insider, objective...

it's clear you want something specific in terms of qualification or
ability,


And it's becoming clear that many folks who I'd have thought felt the
same way, don't...unfortunately...

but seem unwilling to accept this guy is capable of doing the
job.


Um, how do you figure? I've said plain and direct - "convince me with
some facts" and thus far, I've gotten laundry lists of unsupported,
subjective opinions and a reminder that he wrote a book...heck, he
wrote, or "wrote," at least two, but I'm not sure what that has to do
with it...Paris Hilton wrote at least one, too...

mccain meets your criteria?


Entirely? No.

hillary?


Not even close. But admittedly, she has a VERY limited number of
qualities that would serve a POTUS well.

there are 3 choices available.


Um, well, right now, there are NO choices available, but on election
day, there is unlimited choice, including the choice not to vote at all,
available to voters.

who do you choose?


If I were voting today, and the (practical) choice was McCain or
Hillary or Obama, I'd say McCain.

why?


The same reason I said Bush, twice - he is the best in the (practical)
field of two, no more, no less.

what compels, inspires or persuades your vote?


Why do you assume and take it for granted that I am a US voter?

give us your rational, objective reason.


See above.

assuming you could pick the one living person who you believe is the
one, among all others, who meets your criteria...who is it??


I doubt anyone that qualified would have any real interest in or take
the job, but off the top of my head and in the current situation, I'd
offer folks such as Sandra Day O'Connor, Antonin Scalia, or maybe even
Haley Barbour (Gov. of MS). Of the recent crop of candidates, I'd say
Richardson and McCain, flip for POTUS, was probably the "best" possible
choice in the pack. Heck, I'm completely serious when I say I think
Obama would be a good choice as veep with McCain - I think it would give
him a chance to show his stuff (or not, as the case may be) and give a
mandate-level vote to _some_ "team." As I've also said, completely
seriously, IMO, not much "change" can occur if the vote is yet another
50.01% versus 49.99% squeaker regardless of who actually "wins."

TC,
R
 




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