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On Aug 18, 12:37*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: ... And on the human side, that insane nanny bit the Texans did, taking away hundreds of children from their polygamous parents was nothing that could be laid at the feet of "libs," unless all the morally presumptuous wingnut Baptists in Texas have gone thru some makeover that hasn't made the Seattle papers yet. Your years at BYU have endowed you with a horrific blind spot vis a vis some of the most disgusting cultists in America. If the polygamous cultists aren't going to protect their 14 year-old girls from ritual rape then who will ? Protecting children isn't morally presumptuous or the sole province of wingnut Baptists it is the responsibility of the state. -- Ken Fortenberry Well you did notice that all the children had to be returned to their mothers, and that the original accusers turn out to be ficticous right? As for my sojurn in Utah. . . . I had the privilege of working for a 3 term, cigar smoking Lunch Bucket Democrat Governor of Utah, Calvin Rampton, as a very junior planner for the State of Utah. I learned reluctantly what happens when you press the law too closely into the culturally different. First, lets make it clear that the LDS church does not in any way support polygamy, and that "Mormons" do more to discourage it than any thieving Texas prosecutor or show boating Federal (or State) law enforcement carpetbagger has ever done. The polygamous groups are all breakoffs. The church got out of polygamy over 100 years ago. What I learned is that if you don't leave a little discretion to State and local law enforcement, if you press things too much with the power of the State because some nut bag up on the mountain doesn't want to send his kids to school, or talks Nazi bull****, or because three or more people want to form a family, you end up with Sheriffs forced to kill primarily Wingnuts, you end up with the whole bunch of women and kids on welfare, you end up with kids who hate the State because it killed or jailed their father (or Mother in the case of Ruby Ridge), you end up with Sheriffs who retire early because they have local blood on their hands, you end up with children leading chaotic lives hunted by asshole tabloid NY reporters and junketing Federal lawmen. There are abuses and dealing with them is best left to local government and local law enforcement. But if you see this stuff close up you might realize that there are worse outcomes when you apply the full power of the State to enforce in every nook and cranny a particular idea of what the proper age for marriage is, who should be in school and taught what, how many married people in a family is proper, and blur the natural law's definition of rape. Sometimes you just let em be and say, no I don't know where you can find them. Dave Freedom isn't just for those you agree with |
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