my first fly

Flycatcher wrote:
Well I think that's pretty good for a first attempt - My first fly
was a bog standard black spider although my daughter's first attempt
was more like something you'd see worn at royal ascot!

thanks Flycatcher, thats encouraging!

One other thing, fish tend not to be too fussy about the finer points
of flytying - so don't worry too much about how it looks. Your
creation is just as likely to catch something as the most
professionally tied fly.


I'm trying to enstabilish what is really important to fishes and I'm
discussing in other newsgroups about colors, I don't know if fishes see
really them or not.
maybe the form and the movement of the fly it's more important than the
color, but some people swears colors can make the difference!

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ciao
Vittorix

"Vittorix" wrote in message
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but some people swears colors can make the difference!

And some people read the studies.


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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"Vittorix" wrote in message
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but some people swears colors can make the difference!

And some people read the studies.



Here is a freebie.
http://www.seagrant.wisc.edu/greatlakesfish/lure.html
First result on a Yahoo search.

Nope I won't read it and summarize it for you. LOL.


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

How a fly should be dressed is one of those great controversial topics !

I'm only an amateur, but I think like any keen angler, we quite often start
with a tried and trusted pattern and then over time we vary the theme
slightly to see if it will improve effectiveness. I personally believe that
both colour and overall shape are important factors, but like many people,
I'm still looking for that perfect combination.

Having said that, if there was such a thing as the one perfect fly for all
conditions, venues and seasons, I think everyone's fly boxes would look far
far less interesting than they do today.

If you want some examples, you can find some of ours at
http://harelaw.net/lflies.htm. if you look at the cormorant or the greenwell
spider, you will see that they are quite different to the depictions on many
other sites.

While I'm here, when you talk about realizing, I think you mean dressing
(or alternatively tying).

Have fun with your new pastime

John







"Vittorix" wrote in message
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Flycatcher wrote:
Well I think that's pretty good for a first attempt - My first fly
was a bog standard black spider although my daughter's first attempt
was more like something you'd see worn at royal ascot!

thanks Flycatcher, thats encouraging!

One other thing, fish tend not to be too fussy about the finer points
of flytying - so don't worry too much about how it looks. Your
creation is just as likely to catch something as the most
professionally tied fly.


I'm trying to enstabilish what is really important to fishes and I'm
discussing in other newsgroups about colors, I don't know if fishes see
really them or not.
maybe the form and the movement of the fly it's more important than the
color, but some people swears colors can make the difference!

--
ciao
Vittorix

Flycatcher wrote:
How a fly should be dressed is one of those great controversial
topics !

I'm only an amateur, but I think like any keen angler, we quite often
start with a tried and trusted pattern and then over time we vary the
theme slightly to see if it will improve effectiveness. I personally
believe that both colour and overall shape are important factors, but
like many people, I'm still looking for that perfect combination.

do you prefer gloom or bright or natural colors?

Having said that, if there was such a thing as the one perfect fly
for all conditions, venues and seasons, I think everyone's fly boxes
would look far far less interesting than they do today.

I agree! fishing it's so nice because you never know

If you want some examples, you can find some of ours at
http://harelaw.net/lflies.htm. if you look at the cormorant or the
greenwell spider, you will see that they are quite different to the
depictions on many other sites.

nice, two things make me curious: the first is the semplicity and the
second is the fact that the hook it's not hidden.
why?

While I'm here, when you talk about realizing, I think you mean
dressing (or alternatively tying).

thanks, I'm Italian, I just moved in Usa and I apreciate emendations

--
ciao
Vittorix

do you prefer gloom or bright or natural colors?
Personally, I like the traditional colours achieved by a variery of natural
feathers and fur., but there are those times when you have a particular
colour you're looking for and you just can't find it in the natural world.
(for instance theres a distinct lack of wild red ibis around here, and even
if there were a few, I think there would be objections to me shooting them
for their feathers


I'm not sure I'd use the word gloom. Some of the best flies appear quite
dull, but I think thats because of the way we humans see the world. If you
were a fish or a bird, the greens and browns are probably really quite
interesting colours as most of their insect food take on these colours to
camouflage themselves. Those that are less well camoufllaged tend to be less
pleasant to eat .
Flies imitating fish fry, and various aquatic invertebrates have more room
for colour. obviously that is not a hard and fast rule.

nice, two things make me curious: the first is the semplicity and the
second is the fact that the hook it's not hidden.
why?

There's a tradition in the north of england (which extends into scotland)
for very sparsely tied flies. Its been around for a long time and is known
as the north country method. Two classic north country flies are 1). the
snipe and purple and the 2). partridge and orange. If you do a search for
those flies, on google you will see what I mean.

Why is the hook not hidden ? because the fly catches fish whether or not
they see the hook. Perhaps the hook shape imitates the curve of a
particular type of insect larva. I can't say for sure, I can only vouch for
them as consistent catchers of good trout and grayling.

Regarding the english thing. no problems, any time. I wish I could
speak/write another language with as much fluency as you.

John









"Vittorix" wrote in message
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Flycatcher wrote:
How a fly should be dressed is one of those great controversial
topics !

I'm only an amateur, but I think like any keen angler, we quite often
start with a tried and trusted pattern and then over time we vary the
theme slightly to see if it will improve effectiveness. I personally
believe that both colour and overall shape are important factors, but
like many people, I'm still looking for that perfect combination.

do you prefer gloom or bright or natural colors?

Having said that, if there was such a thing as the one perfect fly
for all conditions, venues and seasons, I think everyone's fly boxes
would look far far less interesting than they do today.

I agree! fishing it's so nice because you never know

If you want some examples, you can find some of ours at
http://harelaw.net/lflies.htm. if you look at the cormorant or the
greenwell spider, you will see that they are quite different to the
depictions on many other sites.

nice, two things make me curious: the first is the semplicity and the
second is the fact that the hook it's not hidden.
why?

While I'm here, when you talk about realizing, I think you mean
dressing (or alternatively tying).

thanks, I'm Italian, I just moved in Usa and I apreciate emendations

--
ciao
Vittorix