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Old September 29th, 2005, 12:17 PM
Mike Connor
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schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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On another note, I'd like to see Scotland one day, not necessarily
because of the fishing but still, it looks like a nice place (and they
do produce a certain liquid that I find interesting).

/Roger


There is still "SOME" good cheap fishing in the Scandinavian countries, but
they are also suffering badly from various problems. Salmon and seatrout
fishing has declined rapidly in recent years, and the price has also gone up
very considerably in many places.

Scotland is indeed a very nice play to visit. Hope you make it!

TL
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Old September 29th, 2005, 01:02 PM
angler
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Mike,

As I said, the fishing industry is doing some serious damage to our sea
fish. on the other hand, grayling, brown trout and arctic char have all
been improving the last few years. So I guess it is not all bad. And as
you say, the salmon and sea trout fishing has strangely become a bit
more costly when the salmon have become less ususal.
I hope that someone with a bit of power does something about the
insanity that goes on in our sea, and that soon.

/Roger

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Old September 29th, 2005, 06:56 PM
Scottish Fly Fisher
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:17:10 +0200, "Mike Connor"
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schrieb im Newsbeitrag
roups.com...
SNIP
On another note, I'd like to see Scotland one day, not necessarily
because of the fishing but still, it looks like a nice place (and they
do produce a certain liquid that I find interesting).

/Roger


There is still "SOME" good cheap fishing in the Scandinavian countries, but
they are also suffering badly from various problems. Salmon and seatrout
fishing has declined rapidly in recent years, and the price has also gone up
very considerably in many places.


There are still a number of waters in Scotland that are free to fish
for wild brownies. OK, they are small, but they give you some good
sport in spectacular surroundings. Loch Ba, Lochan na Achlaise and
Lochan na Stainge on Rannoch Moor are particular favourites of mine.
Look here and you'll see why...

http://www.lowefoto.com/konica/glencoe04.jpg

Scotland is indeed a very nice play to visit. Hope you make it!


Most parts of it are. There are exceptions, believe me! :-S

John
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Responsible anglers catch and release.
Lose the barbs or lose the fish!
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Old September 30th, 2005, 04:30 AM
angler
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Hey, that picture, it looks almost as it would at home in the
mountains. Maybe a bit smaller mountains on your side, but the
surroundings are very similar. To go to such a place in Sweden means,
on most occasions, flying in by helicopter (or walking for two days).
This since the mountain area up north is very big and has few roads (if
any). Moors are equally common, there's a place called Shaunja that
when standing on one side you're not able to see the other without
binoculars. Also, I guess that moor of yours have some mosquitoes?
There are places on the Shaunja moor that holds a thousand mosquitoes
per square meter (scientifically proven fact). Not an alltogether
pleasant place to fish, but the Shaunja river has some spectacular
grayling fishing. If for nothing else, I have to go to Scotland one day
to just see the place, looks very nice indeed.

/Roger
For info on fly fishing in the north of Sweden, Lapland visit
http://www.imsoc.se/angler/

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Old September 30th, 2005, 11:16 AM
Scottish Fly Fisher
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On 29 Sep 2005 20:30:39 -0700, "angler" wrote:

Hey, that picture, it looks almost as it would at home in the
mountains. Maybe a bit smaller mountains on your side, but the
surroundings are very similar. To go to such a place in Sweden means,
on most occasions, flying in by helicopter (or walking for two days).
This since the mountain area up north is very big and has few roads (if
any). Moors are equally common, there's a place called Shaunja that
when standing on one side you're not able to see the other without
binoculars. Also, I guess that moor of yours have some mosquitoes?
There are places on the Shaunja moor that holds a thousand mosquitoes
per square meter (scientifically proven fact). Not an alltogether
pleasant place to fish, but the Shaunja river has some spectacular
grayling fishing. If for nothing else, I have to go to Scotland one day
to just see the place, looks very nice indeed.


Believe it or not, that pic was probably taken at the side of the A82.
It is unbelievably accessible! It's only a 2 hour drive from Glasgow,
at the most.

We don't really have mosquitoes, (there are a few,) but we have
midges.

http://www.scotweb.co.uk/environment...tisamidge.html

They are much smaller, but voracious little things. They are a real
pain in the arse.. They form clouds of insectoid irritation that gets
up your nose, in your ears, and despite their small size, they can
really ruin your day with their irritating nibbles.

Apparently the name comes from an old Nordic word, Muggia. I don't
know whether that's because you have them over there, or the Vikings
made it up when they set up their holiday villas over here. :-)

John
http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher
Responsible anglers catch and release.
Lose the barbs or lose the fish!
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Old September 29th, 2005, 06:36 PM
Scottish Fly Fisher
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On 28 Sep 2005 19:28:38 -0700, wrote:

Mike,

It isn't so in all of Europe, as it is till pretty cheap, clean and
wild in all of the Scandinavian countries, and from the size of those
countries, and with regard to their low population,I still feel that
there's hope. I do however share your concern about overfishing,
especially in the sea. The sad thing is that scientists have been
warning about possible collapsing populations of fish, like for example
cod, and still the politicians seem to listen only to the fishing
industry. Then again, why am I surprised? Have yet to meet with a
politician who cares more about what's actually going on than his or
hers own career and wallet.

On another note, I'd like to see Scotland one day, not necessarily
because of the fishing but still, it looks like a nice place (and they
do produce a certain liquid that I find interesting).


I suppose that being a fisherman, I should prefer a Speyside malt, but
I'd go for an Islay one every time. Mmm... peat smoke!

Anyway, I digress. I should be making a shameless plug for the SFF
group at this juncture. ;-)

Scotland is beautiful,if you ignore some areas in the central belt.
(Yeah, I know, I'm biased.) Just bring plenty of waterproofs and
insect repellant and you'll have a blast!

John
http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher
Responsible anglers catch and release.
Lose the barbs or lose the fish!
 




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