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![]() "Rodney Long" wrote in message ... greg wrote: (clipped) Another solution, is there becoming a commercial market for them, netting them in huge numbers. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com Isn't there a commercial market for them. Newspaper ran a story about commercial fishermen licensed to seine the Pec river in N. Ill. a few years ago. Asked the fishermen what they did with the Carp. Their answer "sold them to a major fast food chain"..which by the way, they wouldn't name. I always thought that fish sandwich at McDonalds had a familiar taste to it. Tom G. |
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Tom G wrote:
"Rodney Long" wrote in message ... greg wrote: (clipped) Another solution, is there becoming a commercial market for them, netting them in huge numbers. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com Isn't there a commercial market for them. Newspaper ran a story about commercial fishermen licensed to seine the Pec river in N. Ill. a few years ago. Asked the fishermen what they did with the Carp. Their answer "sold them to a major fast food chain"..which by the way, they wouldn't name. I always thought that fish sandwich at McDonalds had a familiar taste to it. Tom G. Anyone serving carp disguising it as something else is likely to end up gilled and gutted. E. |
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Tom G wrote:
I always thought that fish sandwich at McDonalds had a familiar taste to it. Tom G. Those are 100% shark, at least they were, as I had a friend that had the contract with supplying them shark meat 20 years ago, The reason they used shark is because it has no bones, Think about the law suit if someone got a carp bone stuck in their throat -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Rodney Long wrote:
greg wrote: As soon as carp become a "game fish", you can start to write off all native fish, the damage to the water, and habitat, to native fish, that carp cause, is well known, trying to control their numbers, by killing every carp caught, is the only thing that helps keep them in check, some DNR's have poisoned whole bodies of water killing everything , just to get the carp out, then restocking native fish. When carp become a game fish, they will start putting limits on them, and IDIOTS will start C&R them, it won't take long, and they will become at least 80% of a body of water's fish bio-mass. actually they are doing this now, with no protection. This is a "PROVEN" FACT !!!!!!!!!!! We have the same problem here with spotty carp, AKA trout, which are about the only large fish left in upland waterways. The original inhabitants have been outstocked, then outbred by trout. Suggestions of making some streams trout-free to give natives a chance is met by howls of derision. I hope the same situation never occurs with carp. Another solution, is there becoming a commercial market for them, netting them in huge numbers. They actually make good fertiliser and are caught with this purpose in mind in some places. Netting is largely out of the question due to greenie policies. Cheers, E. |
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![]() "E." wrote in message ... They actually make good fertiliser and are caught with this purpose in mind in some places. Netting is largely out of the question due to greenie policies. Cheers, Looking forward to April 1. Net season runs for 2 months here in Michigan, (lower, upper has a 1 month season starting a month later) I have a new net on the way, my ropes are ready to go, I love killing carp in large numbers. Did you know that netters catch as many fish on the bottom of the net as the top? (8x8 net lays flat on the bottom) Next carp you catch, examine the dorsal fin. There is a saw-toothed spine that catches in the mesh and a 30 pounder can be lifted only by the spine. You can tell when you've set your net on top of a big one. The whole assembly starts shaking and bouncing around. Wait a few to insure the mesh catches the barbs. Funny sight , pulling 3-4 carp up by a single fin and all hanging below the net. I'll post some pictures in a few weeks. Pepperoni |
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"That *would* be a fun catch on 6lb line. Most spots i go to the carp are 70-100cm+. Killing them is a civic duty. Yes, if it was spent on rotenone to kill them." Is cruel brutal and simply stupid. Will you take your children to a lake and teach them "to cut their stinking heads off then let them go."? There is a big chance carp is more native in the USA then most of you guys. And is here to stay. Killing animals just to show off is sensless and it is against animal crualty law. I cant believe no one said anything against "to cut their stinking heads off then let them go." How many years must pass until carp will become "native" according to you? Do you also support killing other species as well which may be a threat to bass? I heard people killing gar, pike, muskie... I hope I will at least make you thinking. "E." wrote in message ... Rodney Long wrote: greg wrote: As soon as carp become a "game fish", you can start to write off all native fish, the damage to the water, and habitat, to native fish, that carp cause, is well known, trying to control their numbers, by killing every carp caught, is the only thing that helps keep them in check, some DNR's have poisoned whole bodies of water killing everything , just to get the carp out, then restocking native fish. When carp become a game fish, they will start putting limits on them, and IDIOTS will start C&R them, it won't take long, and they will become at least 80% of a body of water's fish bio-mass. actually they are doing this now, with no protection. This is a "PROVEN" FACT !!!!!!!!!!! We have the same problem here with spotty carp, AKA trout, which are about the only large fish left in upland waterways. The original inhabitants have been outstocked, then outbred by trout. Suggestions of making some streams trout-free to give natives a chance is met by howls of derision. I hope the same situation never occurs with carp. Another solution, is there becoming a commercial market for them, netting them in huge numbers. They actually make good fertiliser and are caught with this purpose in mind in some places. Netting is largely out of the question due to greenie policies. Cheers, E. |
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I simply cant believe how ignorant you are. If you were just a bit smarter, you would understand that carp days are coming and coming quickly to the States. Then the States needs to urgently re-examine its policies, before its waterways are overrun, fouled up, and devoid of anything but mud puppies. You are simply so completely blinded with whatever all those colorful fishing magazines tell you that you would not even consider anything but bass fishing. Making baseless statements makes you like stupid. I don't buy magazines unless they are giving away free stuff. I also don't fish for bass. Why would I when there are much better fish to target such as Murray Cod and Yellowbelly about? I also target carp regularly, but for different reasons. Bass fishing is a lot of fun, but hey, open your eyes! Pot, Kettle, Black. That bit on your map that says "here be dragons..." is actually The Rest Of The World. It exists. The US is not alone on planet earth. Introduced carp are a problem in many countries. I'm not denying that carp are a fun fish to catch, I just think promoting them is stupid due to the damage they have been proven to do. I don't think you'd win many freinds by illegaling stocking carp into a previously carp free waterway. I bet if someone in the USA starts up CarpMaster and put some money into marketing (and this will happen very soon) you will be the first one to switch ![]() We already have carp killing tournaments to get rid of the pests. My comments are about releasing them or caring for the scumsuckers. Standard practice is to take a small axe to despatch them, so you don't foul a knife to be used on a decent fish. E. |
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![]() "JMC" wrote in message link.net... http://tinyurl.com/ormrk It's carp diem Most 'rough' fans know only one fish can seize their day 06:35 PM CST on Saturday, March 18, 2006 By RAY SASSER / The Dallas Morning News AUSTIN – It's a laidback fishing deal at Emma Long Metropolitan Park on Lake Austin. The lake is really a wide spot on the Colorado River. Million-dollar mansions are elegantly perched on live oak-covered hills surrounding the urban oasis. It's the sort of setting that makes the hills of northern Austin an uncommon place. Mark Villanova and Donnie Hutchinson are fishing for common carp in this uncommon place. They've driven down I-35 from their Dallas-area homes and spent the weekend lounging in camp chairs, playing with Villanova's two children (Jordan and Jasmine), waiting for the high-pitched alarm that signals a bite from the rubber-lipped queen of the rough fish. "Bugle-mouthed bass" is one euphemism for carp. If you look closely at Cyprinus carpio, you'll understand the description. These Asian imports They were imported from Europe. "The first live carp ever seen in North America arrived in Boston in 1877. The 345 fish were accompanied by Rudolf Hessel, a scientist with the U.S. government's Fish Commission who had been sent to Europe to collect and bring back the prized game fish. Hessel stocked several ponds in Boston's Druid Hill Park with his specimens, and he was thrilled to find that the fish had no trouble at all surviving on this continent. In fact, Hessel's carp were soon crowding their ponds." http://www.acnatsci.org/education/kye/hi/exotics.html The black carp. grass carp, bighead carp, all of which while members of the carp family but don't exactly look like the carp we know are more recent imports from asia. |
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This whole thread has what to do with Bass Fishing??
"Musashi" wrote in message . net... "JMC" wrote in message link.net... http://tinyurl.com/ormrk It's carp diem Most 'rough' fans know only one fish can seize their day 06:35 PM CST on Saturday, March 18, 2006 By RAY SASSER / The Dallas Morning News AUSTIN - It's a laidback fishing deal at Emma Long Metropolitan Park on Lake Austin. The lake is really a wide spot on the Colorado River. Million-dollar mansions are elegantly perched on live oak-covered hills surrounding the urban oasis. It's the sort of setting that makes the hills of northern Austin an uncommon place. Mark Villanova and Donnie Hutchinson are fishing for common carp in this uncommon place. They've driven down I-35 from their Dallas-area homes and spent the weekend lounging in camp chairs, playing with Villanova's two children (Jordan and Jasmine), waiting for the high-pitched alarm that signals a bite from the rubber-lipped queen of the rough fish. "Bugle-mouthed bass" is one euphemism for carp. If you look closely at Cyprinus carpio, you'll understand the description. These Asian imports They were imported from Europe. "The first live carp ever seen in North America arrived in Boston in 1877. The 345 fish were accompanied by Rudolf Hessel, a scientist with the U.S. government's Fish Commission who had been sent to Europe to collect and bring back the prized game fish. Hessel stocked several ponds in Boston's Druid Hill Park with his specimens, and he was thrilled to find that the fish had no trouble at all surviving on this continent. In fact, Hessel's carp were soon crowding their ponds." http://www.acnatsci.org/education/kye/hi/exotics.html The black carp. grass carp, bighead carp, all of which while members of the carp family but don't exactly look like the carp we know are more recent imports from asia. |
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