Sick of the license BS

On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:46:54 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
You have demonstrated here that you are an immoral thief, a
disgusting excuse for a human being and no sportsman worthy
of the name. So quit digging already.

Unlike you, I will not be a moron today, tomorrow and forever.

Ken C

Abusive language is not unlawful. However, calling a person a thief
who is not a thief is actionable defamation -- and immoral. A slam
dunk, by the way.

One of these days, one of you ****heads will go too far and find
himself at the wrong end of a very expensive lawsuit from which even
bankruptcy can provide no relief.

Does anyone else find that someone who talks about flaunting the LAW,
waiving a threat of a LAWsuit around when called on it rather amusing?

By the way, in your humble opinion, you've listed items that you deem
not "immoral." Would you not consider a threat to public safety
immoral? Have you ever had a loved on killed by a speeder? I watched
my girlfriend's car get t-boned on the driver's side when I was 17 (I
was in the car behind her, Ontario, California, 1975). Have you ever
been in a party at a park with large quantities of beer being drunk?
Watched a fight break out? Watched a man wade into the crowd with a
gun to break it up? Watched that man get hit with a bottle and then
someone jumps on his back? Watched as the gun goes off into the crowd
and the bullet explodes that man's son's head like a mellon (Chino,
California, 1974)? Hmm, drinking in the park and firing a gun near a
public road (the guy came off the sidewalk into the park). Nothing
immoral there. In both instances, young people died. In neither
instance were the young people at fault, but other, older, "wiser"
individuals had, like you, determined that they were either above the
law or the law did not apply to them.
There is no "technical" about it. If you fish without a license where
a license is required, if you take more than your allotted limit, you
are a poacher. That is a criminal activity. One who commits a
criminal activity is a criminal.
Frank Reid

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
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By the way, in your humble opinion, you've listed items that you deem
not "immoral." Would you not consider a threat to public safety
immoral? Have you ever had a loved on killed by a speeder? I watched
my girlfriend's car get t-boned on the driver's side when I was 17 (I
was in the car behind her, Ontario, California, 1975). Have you ever
been in a party at a park with large quantities of beer being drunk?
Watched a fight break out? Watched a man wade into the crowd with a
gun to break it up? Watched that man get hit with a bottle and then
someone jumps on his back? Watched as the gun goes off into the crowd
and the bullet explodes that man's son's head like a mellon (Chino,
California, 1974)? Hmm, drinking in the park and firing a gun near a
public road (the guy came off the sidewalk into the park). Nothing
immoral there. In both instances, young people died. In neither
instance were the young people at fault, but other, older, "wiser"
individuals had, like you, determined that they were either above the
law or the law did not apply to them.
There is no "technical" about it. If you fish without a license where
a license is required, if you take more than your allotted limit, you
are a poacher. That is a criminal activity. One who commits a
criminal activity is a criminal.
Frank Reid

Damn Frank,
I'm feeling I lived a pretty boring life in my 52+ years here in CA.
-tom

Move to Chino. At one time, it had the highest "per capita" murder
rate of any incorporated city (over 10,000) in the nation.
Frank Reid

"Ken C" wrote in message
...

...One of these days, one of you ****heads will go too far and find
himself at the wrong end of a very expensive lawsuit from which even
bankruptcy can provide no relief.

Good luck with that.

Wolfgang

"Ken C" wrote in message
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On Sat, 13 May 2006 07:10:21 -0500, Ken C
wrote:
Needless to say, I took my chances. After
all, I have never been approached for a license check in 40 years of
fishing.

I had to do some income-producing work, but now am back.

Yes, fishing without a license where one is required is within the
technical definition of poaching. However, because there is no
intention to take any fish, it is not theft. It is in the same
category as a non-injurious trespass -- lke cutting across private
property to save time.

If you think such conduct is immoral, then you are wrong on the law --
and possibly retarded. It may be unlawful, but not all unlawful
conduct is immoral. Other examples of unlawful conduct that is not
immoral are speeding, drinking beer in a public park, and discharging
a firearm close to a public road.

Abusive language is not unlawful. However, calling a person a thief
who is not a thief is actionable defamation -- and immoral. A slam
dunk, by the way.

One of these days, one of you ****heads will go too far and find
himself at the wrong end of a very expensive lawsuit from which even
bankruptcy can provide no relief.

Ken C



Since most state game departments factor in economic losses for poaching
offenses where game is killed, and there is an economic loss to the state
F&G from participating in an activity that is licensed by the state, I don't
think the word "Thief" is out of line, it sounds like an apt description,
(in my opinion).

Your posts bring to mind an incident from my youth when I was running a fly
shop in a rocky mountain state famous for its fly fishing and bars.

Yvon Chouinard (of Patagonia fame, etc...) walked through the door and
requested a non-resident fishing license, as I was preparing it (with a pen,
in those analog days), to make small talk I asked what rivers he was
thinking of fishing.

He replied "oh, I don't have time to fish this trip, I just always buy a
license in every state I stop in, as the money goes to conversation
purposes."

Quite a different way of looking at things then the selfish blather you've
been spewing.

Skwala

PS What Wayne knight said bears repeating:::: "Last I checked they called
it a fishing license, not a catching license."

On Wed, 17 May 2006 15:26:42 -0700, "Skwala"
wrote:
He replied "oh, I don't have time to fish this trip, I just always buy a
license in every state I stop in, as the money goes to conversation
purposes."

And what was the license fee? $2?

You seem to have left that part out . . .

Ken C

"Ken C" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 May 2006 15:26:42 -0700, "Skwala"
wrote:
He replied "oh, I don't have time to fish this trip, I just always buy a
license in every state I stop in, as the money goes to conversation
purposes."

And what was the license fee? $2?

You seem to have left that part out . . .

Ken C

Shoot, I may have gray hair, but I'm not in a nursing home... $2.00, geez.

It was $36.00 + $2.00, at the time, cheap skate.

On Thu, 18 May 2006 14:46:14 -0700, "Skwala"
wrote:


"Ken C" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 May 2006 15:26:42 -0700, "Skwala"
wrote:
He replied "oh, I don't have time to fish this trip, I just always buy a
license in every state I stop in, as the money goes to conversation
purposes."

And what was the license fee? $2?

You seem to have left that part out . . .

Ken C

Shoot, I may have gray hair, but I'm not in a nursing home... $2.00, geez.

It was $36.00 + $2.00, at the time, cheap skate.

Really, what a skinflint! This guy sells 6.00USD shirts, for what,
287.00 or something and all he would contrib...oh, wait...I'm sorta
guessing here that you didn't mean Patagonia boy with the "cheap skate"
comment, right?

Heck, next thing ya know, folks will expect Gates to quit using P2P and
actually BUY a song once in a while...

"Skwala" wrote in news:XuednemBnvC_PvbZRVn-
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He replied "oh, I don't have time to fish this trip, I just always buy a
license in every state I stop in, as the money goes to conversation
purposes."



And it worked! It clearly started a conversation!!

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Scott
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