TR for the Bighorn Micro Clave and a Trip to Chas's

Warren wrote:

Sorry Darin. I basically had less than 12 hours notice for
this trip. It really was a last minute decision to even go.
Steve talked me into it and we were gone the next morning.
Trust me, if I get back over that way, it will be planned. I
definitely wouldn't mind seeing you and Dave S. again. Steve
and I actually talked about that during the drive.

I wasn't giving you any **** for not letting me know this time, I read that
it was spur of the moment.

Thanks. I'm telling you, that fishing has me looking at other
locations to live even though it would put me farther away
from my daughter.

You're only about 12 hours away here where I'm at, couple a hours closer on
Chas' side of the pond. There are guys that head to Montana just for the 2
day weekend from here. I know it's not an ideal situation for you but if the
thoughts are running through your head it's something to consider. The last
thing I'm trying to do is to talk you into moving over here and away from the
love of your life (your daughter, not fishing).


--
Warren
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wrote...
I wasn't giving you any **** for not letting me know this time, I read that
it was spur of the moment.

Yeah I know, but RW and I talked about how we wished we had
more time so that we could have got you and Dave together too.

You're only about 12 hours away here where I'm at, couple a hours closer on
Chas' side of the pond. There are guys that head to Montana just for the 2
day weekend from here. I know it's not an ideal situation for you but if the
thoughts are running through your head it's something to consider. The last
thing I'm trying to do is to talk you into moving over here and away from the
love of your life (your daughter, not fishing).

12 hours doesn't sound like much until you get behind the
wheel and actually do it. I doubt the weather will be as good
next time I/we go. That 12 hour drive may turn into a 16+
hour drive based upon weather. I wish I were closer, but you
nailed what is keeping me from moving over. Of course she is
a little fisherman and would probably enjoy those trips when
she gets a little bit older. g

When Lou Teletski was out here, the youngin' caught a 17" cutt
on her own. I actually cast, but the fish took and when I set
the hook I gave her the rod. She landed that thing on her own
and then made me take the rod so she could net it. Every time
she comes over she wants to go out in the boat too. Must be
good genetics. ;-)
--
Warren
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Warren wrote:

12 hours doesn't sound like much until you get behind the
wheel and actually do it. I doubt the weather will be as good
next time I/we go. That 12 hour drive may turn into a 16+
hour drive based upon weather. I wish I were closer, but you
nailed what is keeping me from moving over. Of course she is
a little fisherman and would probably enjoy those trips when
she gets a little bit older. g


I've done it a couple of times now just to come see your sorry ass Good point
about the nastier weather. I think it would be heavy on the + in the 16+ hours.


When Lou Teletski was out here, the youngin' caught a 17" cutt
on her own. I actually cast, but the fish took and when I set
the hook I gave her the rod. She landed that thing on her own
and then made me take the rod so she could net it. Every time
she comes over she wants to go out in the boat too. Must be
good genetics. ;-)

Gave me a chill to read that, thanks.

Darin

Warren wrote:

RW showed up to my house on a Wednesday evening....

Excellent TR and beautiful pix from both you and Willi.

Partly because of the timing of their runs and partly because I can't
get past how plug ugly they are, I've never fished for pinks. What are
they like--the take, the fight? Were you dead-drifting those flies,
swinging them....?

JR

wrote...
Excellent TR and beautiful pix from both you and Willi.

JR, none of the pics were mine. I lent my camera to a friend
who fried the thing and so Willi, Kevin, RW and Snoop were the
photographers. Hope you enjoyed the humor in the TR though.
g

Partly because of the timing of their runs and partly because I can't
get past how plug ugly they are, I've never fished for pinks. What are
they like--the take, the fight? Were you dead-drifting those flies,
swinging them....?

They ARE ugly! Ugly to the point to where they are beautiful
that is. I really got a kick out of fishing for the pinks
because it was like nothing I have ever experienced before. I
got the impression that they are a "lesser" salmon, but they
suited me just fine. The smoked ones that Chas had at the
"Wade Inn" were terrific and I can't wait to smoke some
myself. I had a couple of steaks tonight on the Q using some
mesquite chips that seemed too harsh for the fish. I am
looking forward to trying it again with some alder or apple.
I still can't believe I actually got to experience the thrill
that these fish provided.

How do you explain pinks? They can slam a fly, pick it up on
a dead drift and just "hold" the fly or can simply be foul
hooked. I hated how often fish were foul hooked and it was
something that disturbed me. Drifting a heavy fly through
shallow water would often snag a male on the hump. I didn't
count these fish in my "personal tally" and did everything I
could to land and release these fish as quickly as possible.
Bitching about there being so many fish that you actually foul
hooked fish is just something that I have never had to deal
with before. The solid takes were *solid* and fun. They
didn't seem to fight as long as the trout I am used to fishing
for, but they fought harder in a shorter period of time unless
they were "fresher" fish. The "fresher" ones seemed to have
more spunk to them and would actually battle much like a big
brown IME. The ones a little later along in the run would
fight for a bit and then come in like an old boot once they
were wore out. ailuweiukawei Sorry....had to swat an
annoying caddis....

I really enjoyed fishing for the pinks and am now hooked.
Sight fishing for them was an ultimate kick for me. In my
very limited experience, it seemed like the fish would
congregate on the slower moving water, especially before a
rapid. They would move into shallow water and if you didn't
spook them, you could totally sight fish to a specific fish if
they were holding. Watching that big mouth open and see the
fly actually entering the mouth before setting the hook was a
blast! More often than not, it was sight fishing in shallow
water to moving fish or sight fishing to a huge "blob" of fish
in a certain area. RW and I sat there and laughed for a long
time on how "obscene" the fishing was.

Another thing I noticed was that the better "keepers" would be
further out from shore. It often was a battle of casting past
the more "wore out" fish without spooking them to get to the
good ones. The "fresher" fish seemed to be just beyond the
easy, visible fish. For me, the funnest part of this whole
trip was basically showing up someplace totally foreign to me,
faced with a totally new type of fishing, given three flies
that would work and being turned loose. I was kind of the
anti-social person in the group and would often just go out on
my own without any specific instructions and kind of play
around until I figured out how to catch the fish on my own.
You could totally see them, but you couldn't always get them
to take a fly. It was easy, but challenging at the same time
if you catch my meaning.

The impression that I was left with was that the pinks are
like a good practice fish for the upcoming and better runs of
fish. *I* enjoyed every minute I was fishing for the pinks
and at times was just worn out from catching so many. They
fought just enough to wear a guy out and were plentiful and
hungry enough at times to be a pain in the ass. I guess the
best way I can put it was that it was like being 4 years old
again, fishing for perch using a cane rod and worms and just
hauling in fish after fish. It was fun as hell but it got
just down-right tiring after a while. Just when you thought
you possibly couldn't take any more, the fish would get hard
to catch and would become challenging again. If you haven't
tried it, you owe it to yourself to try it at least once with
someone like Chas. The whole experience still seems like a
dream to me and is something that I doubt I will forget
anytime soon. It is just hard believe that it actually
happened.
--
Warren (aka Iron Harry Vane arrr!)
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)

Warren wrote:

The whole experience still seems like a
dream to me and is something that I doubt I will forget
anytime soon. It is just hard believe that it actually
happened.

Looks like those salmon put their hook in you!

Willi

Warren wrote:

.... I lent my camera to a friend
who fried the thing and so Willi, Kevin, RW and Snoop were the
photographers. Hope you enjoyed the humor in the TR though.

There was humor?

How do you explain pinks? They can slam a fly, pick it up on
a dead drift and just "hold" the fly or can simply be foul
hooked. I hated how often fish were foul hooked and it was
something that disturbed me.....
excellent descriptions snipped

The range of types of takes and types of fight, depending on the
freshness of the fish, sounds a bit like steelhead, though I think when
you first tie into a really hot steelhead fresh from the sea, the kind
that takes a hundred yards of backing before it even registers you've
hooked something.... well, then you'd get the PNW bug big time.... the
Anadromous Strain g...

Thanks again for the cool TR. Hope you get back to WA or OR for some
more sea run fishing.

JR

JR wrote:
The range of types of takes and types of fight, depending on the
freshness of the fish, sounds a bit like steelhead, though I think when
you first tie into a really hot steelhead fresh from the sea, the kind
that takes a hundred yards of backing before it even registers you've
hooked something.... well, then you'd get the PNW bug big time.... the
Anadromous Strain g...

You're right on the money here JR. The pinks aren't the fighters a
steelhead can be. About 1 in 40 will take you into the backing, but
part of that is the size of the fish, and part of it is their
freshness. Steelhead can be fresh a thousand miles and a month or two
from the salt, Pinks are rarely fresh for more than a couple weeks.

Maybe I'm fond of ugly fish? Pike and pinks are great, but what about
chums. Now that's an ugly fish with an attitude. On a good day you
have to quit after 2 or 3 hours because your hands and arms are too
tired.

I tested positive for the Anadromous Strain.

Chas
http://home.comcast.net/~chas.wade/w...ome.html-.html

Chas Wade wrote:

You're right on the money here JR. The pinks aren't the fighters a
steelhead can be. About 1 in 40 will take you into the backing, ...

1 in 40? Where have you been fishing? It's a rare summer fish on the
Deschutes that won't take you into the backing. I admit fish in some
other OR rivers are less train-like, but 1 in 40?

JR

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Warren wrote:

best way I can put it was that it was like being 4 years old
again, fishing for perch using a cane rod and worms and just
hauling in fish after fish.

That's a very apt description.

It was fun as hell but it got
just down-right tiring after a while. Just when you thought
you possibly couldn't take any more, the fish would get hard
to catch and would become challenging again.

Picking off the ones at the edges of the pods can be a challenge in any
case.

Mu