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Old March 7th, 2007, 05:35 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Wolfgang wrote:


Broadly speaking, there are two classes of books in this world; those
whose covers are (as Mr. Bierce once observed) too far apart, and
those whose covers are way too close together.


That's a cool observation and very true. Got me to thinking of some
books that might fit the two categories. Two I've read the past year I
think make good examples, at least in my opinion, which is all either
category is anyway. Opinions.

I reread, after a first reading twenty-five years ago, "Atlas Shrugged"
by Ayn Rand this summer. That book is too thick. Way too thick. If it
were edited down to about half it would be a much better read.

I also read "1776" by David McCullough. When I finished the book (which
ends with almost a quarter inch of pages left) I was ready for "1777."
Covers too close together.

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Old March 6th, 2007, 05:21 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Mar 5, 9:10 pm, jeff wrote:
Adam wrote:
On Mar 5, 10:54 am, "Wayne Knight" wrote:


On Mar 5, 9:57 am, "Joe McIntosh" wrote:


Still trying to complete article on life of a small brook trout from
hatchery to death on a rat face McDougal from the fish point of view., and
find first person {the fish } point of view sort of confusing.
Wolfgang or some of you book folks, have you read anything presented from
the fish side of story?


Haig-Brown : "Return to the River"


A terrific book, from probably the most talented writer of fishing
books, ever. However, it happens to be written in the third-person
(omnicient) point of view, not in the first-person.


That being said, wouldn't any story that attempted to be from the
perspective of the fish be fairly contrived? That's probably why you
find it confusing, Joe. It's hard enough to imagine a story narrated
from the perspective of a nonhuman primate, not to mention going a few
rungs down the evolutionary ladder to the fish. Either some serious
anthropomorphism needs to be accomplished (so the fish talks more like
a person), or there has to be a third-person voice.


Just my $0.02 worth,


Adam


john gardner wrote a book from the beowulf monster's point of
view...grendel. very effective and interesting when i read it decades ago.- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks, Jeff, I had never heard of 'Grendel', and just requested it
from the library.

-Adam



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Old March 6th, 2007, 03:32 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Adam" wrote in message

A terrific book, from probably the most talented writer of fishing
books, ever. However, it happens to be written in the third-person
(omnicient) point of view, not in the first-person.

That being said, wouldn't any story that attempted to be from the
perspective of the fish be fairly contrived? That's probably why you
find it confusing, Joe. It's hard enough to imagine a story narrated
from the perspective of a nonhuman primate, not to mention going a few
rungs down the evolutionary ladder to the fish. Either some serious
anthropomorphism needs to be accomplished (so the fish talks more like
a person), or there has to be a third-person voice.

Just my $0.02 worth,

Adam

Indian Joe amazingly answers--anthropomorphism indeed is expected--my
wife says walt disney just made big money producing a movie where all the
fish talk---Finding Nemo---

my story line will have to be revised to remove scenes of raccoon eating
one small brookie and a large brown who swims upstream to spawn and eats
brother of my main man.
By the way the brook trout was first described by Mitchell in 1815 from fish
caught around New York city.Hence the name Eastern brook trout. {Salvelinus
fontinalis} The term "fontinalis" means 'living in springs."--{ this info
collected from stevenojai's Fly Fishing the Sierras}


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Old March 6th, 2007, 04:54 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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I think the best person to ask is Frank Ried He has spent enough time
underwater to be an expert in the life cycle of a brook
trout..............Love ya frankie baby..........Your email still
doesn't work unless you just don't want to answer me

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Old March 5th, 2007, 09:30 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Mar 5, 9:57 am, "Joe McIntosh" wrote:
have you read anything presented from
the fish side of story?


"What the Trout Said" by Datus Proper. I have the second "revised and
augmented" edition, Nick Lyons books, 1989. I believe it is out of
print.

Bill

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Old March 6th, 2007, 02:25 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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wrote in message
oups.com...

"What the Trout Said" by Datus Proper. I have the second "revised and
augmented" edition, Nick Lyons books, 1989. I believe it is out of
print.

Bill

I think another run was published after Proper's death.
Great book.....very well the most important book for fly tyers ever written
by an American. I know that sounds hyperbolic, but that is how I really feel
about that book.
Still, Proper is still the primary narrator, the trout, all adults, and
generally with an attitude, speak to him.....
Tom


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Old March 9th, 2007, 12:46 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Raptor Red by Robert Bakker....it's about dinosaurs....

written from the dino's point of view, in the third person and is a neat
read..

Seems to me to be written in the first person would be kind of hard because
animals (and such) don't use "I."

john


"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
Still trying to complete article on life of a small brook trout from
hatchery to death on a rat face McDougal from the fish point of view.,
and find first person {the fish } point of view sort of confusing.
Wolfgang or some of you book folks, have you read anything presented from
the fish side of story? If they make a movie from this article I will
share credits if you offer any suggestions.
Indian Joe




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Old March 9th, 2007, 02:06 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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asadi wrote:

Raptor Red by Robert Bakker....it's about dinosaurs....

written from the dino's point of view, in the third person and is a neat
read..

Seems to me to be written in the first person would be kind of hard because
animals (and such) don't use "I."

john





john - eta in eastern nc? how long do you want to stay?

jeff
 




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