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Old June 12th, 2007, 07:15 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Hello,
Wante to try some double taper line..Have a friend who is getting rid
of some DT line that he never used, I have a 5/6 weight Redington
moderate action 9' rod. He has a 4wt DT and a 6 wt DT for sale.
Wondering if I should try it out but not sure if It would be wiser to
go up a weight from the rating or down a weight from it...or just wait
and buy some 5wt DT.
Just looking for some help or experiences..
THanks,
Brian

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Old June 12th, 2007, 07:39 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Double Taper Question.

On Jun 12, 2:15 pm, wrote:
Hello,
Wante to try some double taper line..Have a friend who is getting rid
of some DT line that he never used, I have a 5/6 weight Redington
moderate action 9' rod. He has a 4wt DT and a 6 wt DT for sale.
Wondering if I should try it out but not sure if It would be wiser to
go up a weight from the rating or down a weight from it...or just wait
and buy some 5wt DT.
Just looking for some help or experiences..
THanks,
Brian


There are a lot of variables here, but generally, when a rod is rated
at 5/6 wt it will perform best with a 6 wt WF and a 5 wt DT, providing
you are casting more than 30'. Making longer casts the 6 wt DT might
(or might not) be more difficult. Really, the only way to tell is to
try it, if possible. For short casts, I'd say go for it , if the price
is right. Most newer rods are pretty forgiving about over or
underlining , so you'd likely be OK.

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Old June 13th, 2007, 12:29 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Double Taper Question.

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:39:39 -0700, George Adams
wrote:

On Jun 12, 2:15 pm, wrote:
Hello,
Wante to try some double taper line..Have a friend who is getting rid
of some DT line that he never used, I have a 5/6 weight Redington
moderate action 9' rod. He has a 4wt DT and a 6 wt DT for sale.
Wondering if I should try it out but not sure if It would be wiser to
go up a weight from the rating or down a weight from it...or just wait
and buy some 5wt DT.
Just looking for some help or experiences..
THanks,
Brian


There are a lot of variables here, but generally, when a rod is rated
at 5/6 wt it will perform best with a 6 wt WF and a 5 wt DT, providing
you are casting more than 30'.


Um...huh? The weight rating has nothing to do with taper, and there is
no "taper standard." The first 30 feet of a particular 5DT could weight
more or less than a particular 5WF, but the first 30 ft. of ANY 5 will
weigh less than the first 30 ft. of ANY 6.

Now, if you are "casting" significantly LESS than 30 feet, one might
argue that a particular WF taper, and therefore, its weight at a
particular point at less than 30 ft. versus the weight of a DT at the
same distance, MIGHT come into technical, mathematical play, but at
significantly less than 30 feet, the taper won't matter much if at all
in practice.

As to the OP's (apparent) question, IMO, the 6DT would (generally) be an
OK choice for a 5/6 rated rod at middish (25-50 ft.) casting distances
(the 4 would not load all 5s as well as a 5 or 6 - but it might load a
_particular_ 5 just fine - see below), but either would be fine for
short distance work - heck, for significantly less than 30 ft., just
about ANY weight line/taper could be used and overlining will generally
make "casting" easier (but NOT for close to, or in excess of, 30 ft.).
Really, at very short distances, you aren't "casting" as much as a form
of dapping or flipping.

Making longer casts the 6 wt DT might
(or might not) be more difficult. Really, the only way to tell is to
try it, if possible. For short casts, I'd say go for it , if the price
is right. Most newer rods are pretty forgiving about over or
underlining , so you'd likely be OK.


Now with this I agree.

TC,
R
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Old June 13th, 2007, 01:34 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:39:39 -0700, George Adams
wrote:

On Jun 12, 2:15 pm, wrote:
Hello,
Wante to try some double taper line..Have a friend who is getting rid
of some DT line that he never used, I have a 5/6 weight Redington
moderate action 9' rod. He has a 4wt DT and a 6 wt DT for sale.
Wondering if I should try it out but not sure if It would be wiser to
go up a weight from the rating or down a weight from it...or just wait
and buy some 5wt DT.
Just looking for some help or experiences..
THanks,
Brian


There are a lot of variables here, but generally, when a rod is rated
at 5/6 wt it will perform best with a 6 wt WF and a 5 wt DT, providing
you are casting more than 30'.


Um...huh? The weight rating has nothing to do with taper, and there is
no "taper standard." The first 30 feet of a particular 5DT could weight
more or less than a particular 5WF, but the first 30 ft. of ANY 5 will
weigh less than the first 30 ft. of ANY 6.

Now, if you are "casting" significantly LESS than 30 feet, one might
argue that a particular WF taper, and therefore, its weight at a
particular point at less than 30 ft. versus the weight of a DT at the
same distance, MIGHT come into technical, mathematical play, but at
significantly less than 30 feet, the taper won't matter much if at all
in practice.

As to the OP's (apparent) question, IMO, the 6DT would (generally) be an
OK choice for a 5/6 rated rod at middish (25-50 ft.) casting distances
(the 4 would not load all 5s as well as a 5 or 6 - but it might load a
_particular_ 5 just fine - see below), but either would be fine for
short distance work - heck, for significantly less than 30 ft., just
about ANY weight line/taper could be used and overlining will generally
make "casting" easier (but NOT for close to, or in excess of, 30 ft.).
Really, at very short distances, you aren't "casting" as much as a form
of dapping or flipping.


Help me out here. Wouldn't it be lot simpler and save a LOT of time pecking
at the keyboard to state simply and clearly; "I have nothing to say."?

Making longer casts the 6 wt DT might
(or might not) be more difficult. Really, the only way to tell is to
try it, if possible. For short casts, I'd say go for it , if the price
is right. Most newer rods are pretty forgiving about over or
underlining , so you'd likely be OK.


Now with this I agree.


Me too (or maybe not).

Wolfgang
use the 6 weight.


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Old June 13th, 2007, 02:38 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Jun 12, 9:50 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:35:22 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:15:32 -0000, wrote:


Hello,
Wante to try some double taper line..Have a friend who is getting rid
of some DT line that he never used, I have a 5/6 weight Redington
moderate action 9' rod. He has a 4wt DT and a 6 wt DT for sale.
Wondering if I should try it out but not sure if It would be wiser to
go up a weight from the rating or down a weight from it...or just wait
and buy some 5wt DT.
Just looking for some help or experiences..
THanks,
Brian


What are you intending to do with the line(s)?


I'm going to guess......wait for it.....fish.


Er, no, you're going to assume it...since the OP said nothing about
fishing, casting accuracy games, etc., there isn't enough info for an
educated gue...ah...nevermind...


You don't know what the words "guess" and "assumption" mean, do you?

Moron.

Wolfgang- Hide quoted text -

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Fish..or weave an Ethiopian Chest Plate worn by the rightful
firekeeper. But I'm leaning towards fishing. Rocky River in Ohio
smallmouth small/medium river...it's too good a deal to pass up I'll
go with the 6 and give it a whirl.
Thanks for all the info.
Brian

 




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