Anyone try the Cortland 444 Sylk line?

Has anyone here tried the Cortland 444 Sylk line?
It has a smaller dia. than most of the Double Taper lines on
the market. I was wondering how it cast, and since it's smaller
in dia, how it would rollcast.
thanks,
-tom

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in news:feg9ta$s23$1
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Has anyone here tried the Cortland 444 Sylk line?
It has a smaller dia. than most of the Double Taper lines on
the market. I was wondering how it cast, and since it's smaller
in dia, how it would rollcast.
thanks,
-tom




Haven't tried it, but heard the speil from the Cortland Rep. They market
it as a modern replacement for silk lines on bamboo rods. I don't think it
would match up very well to graphite.


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Scott
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Tom Nakashima wrote:
Has anyone here tried the Cortland 444 Sylk line?
It has a smaller dia. than most of the Double Taper lines on
the market. I was wondering how it cast, and since it's smaller
in dia, how it would rollcast.

I have a Cortland Sylk DT4 that I use on a bamboo rod.
It's great for delicate work, laying out a gentle 25
foot cast, but not good for distance or roll casting.
It's a very limp, and I mean *very* limp, fly line. I
have a real Phoenix Silk fly line in DT5 for my other
bamboo and the Cortland Sylk is even limper than the
real thing. If you're used to a stiff, slick coating
on your fly line for roll casting etc., you probably
wouldn't like Cortland Sylk.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Tom Nakashima wrote:
Has anyone here tried the Cortland 444 Sylk line?
It has a smaller dia. than most of the Double Taper lines on
the market. I was wondering how it cast, and since it's smaller
in dia, how it would rollcast.

I have a Cortland Sylk DT4 that I use on a bamboo rod.
It's great for delicate work, laying out a gentle 25
foot cast, but not good for distance or roll casting.
It's a very limp, and I mean *very* limp, fly line. I
have a real Phoenix Silk fly line in DT5 for my other
bamboo and the Cortland Sylk is even limper than the
real thing. If you're used to a stiff, slick coating
on your fly line for roll casting etc., you probably
wouldn't like Cortland Sylk.

--
Ken Fortenberry

How do you like the Phoenix Silk? Rollcast?
I just pulled up the Phoenix website,
so you dress the line accordingly? Sinking, floating?
Expensive line. $268.07 = 190.00 Euro for 7wt DT...think I
converted that right.
I'll probably stick with the conventional DT line for now, I enjoy
the rollcast.
-tom

Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
... I
have a real Phoenix Silk fly line in DT5 for my other
bamboo and the Cortland Sylk is even limper than the
real thing. If you're used to a stiff, slick coating
on your fly line for roll casting etc., you probably
wouldn't like Cortland Sylk.

How do you like the Phoenix Silk? Rollcast?
I just pulled up the Phoenix website,
so you dress the line accordingly? Sinking, floating?
Expensive line. $268.07 = 190.00 Euro for 7wt DT...think I
converted that right.
I'll probably stick with the conventional DT line for now, I enjoy
the rollcast.

It's a great fly line, it may sound expensive but properly
taken care of it will outlast 5 or 6 plastic lines. All I
have to do now is live long enough to realize the cost
benefit. ;-)

I don't rollcast much and I don't fish anything other than
a floating line with the bamboo rod. I treat the silk with
Red Mucilin and when it starts to sink (5-6 hours of fishing)
I turn the DT around and fish the other end. I hang it up to
dry overnight, treat both ends again the next morning and
it's ready to go for 10-12 more hours of fishing.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Oct 9, 12:23 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
Has anyone here tried the Cortland 444 Sylk line?
It has a smaller dia. than most of the Double Taper lines on
the market. I was wondering how it cast, and since it's smaller
in dia, how it would rollcast.
thanks,
-tom

The Cortland 444 Sylk lines are nice because of the smaller diameter
(up to 2 line sizes). They are very fast because othey have low drag
so it takes some adjustments on the casters part. They are sticky
until you get them wet so casting one dry really sucks. These lines
work well with any type of rod, graphite, fiberglass, bamboo..... I
doubted them for years until I got one from my rep and used it. I use
mine on a 6 weight bamboo and 6 weight fiberglass and I'll keep using
it.I also casted this line on a graphite the other day and it worked
fine. JMHO
Bruce

On Oct 9, 4:22 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

It's a great fly line, it may sound expensive but properly
taken care of it will outlast 5 or 6 plastic lines. All I
have to do now is live long enough to realize the cost
benefit. ;-)


I bought a Phoenix silk fly line several years ago with this same
mindset. Unfortunately, a mouse got into my fly fishing gear and
gnawed the silk line into several pieces. 1 out of 1 garage mice
prefer silk to plastic.

Is it just me or have silk lines gone way up in price in the last,
say, 5 years. Seems like I bought mine for $90 which seemed like a
ripoff at the time (not that it stopped me) but that was nothing
compared to the $250ish today.

--Steve

Zimbo wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
It's a great fly line, it may sound expensive but properly
taken care of it will outlast 5 or 6 plastic lines. All I
have to do now is live long enough to realize the cost
benefit. ;-)

I bought a Phoenix silk fly line several years ago with this same
mindset. Unfortunately, a mouse got into my fly fishing gear and
gnawed the silk line into several pieces. 1 out of 1 garage mice
prefer silk to plastic.

Is it just me or have silk lines gone way up in price in the last,
say, 5 years. Seems like I bought mine for $90 which seemed like a
ripoff at the time (not that it stopped me) but that was nothing
compared to the $250ish today.

Phoenix silk lines cost about the same as they always have,
it's the US dollar going down the toilet that makes them much
more expensive to import.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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Has anyone here tried the Cortland 444 Sylk line?
It has a smaller dia. than most of the Double Taper lines on
the market. I was wondering how it cast, and since it's smaller
in dia, how it would rollcast.

I use the Sylk DT's on 3,4, and 5wt slow action graphites plus cane and
glass. It's a fine line for those applications and will roll cast decently
on those rods. I would not even think of using it on a faster action rod. It
doesn't float as well as a real silk line and it needs to be cleaned a
little more often than a regular line. Until the new generation of the Rio
Selective trout line which is supposed to be more like the sylk starts
shipping I highly recomend the Sylk or the Wulff LB fly lines for cane and
glass if one doesn't like the standard fly lines.

If it's better roll casting with a quicker rod you want, go with a Wulf TT
or wait until the SA Sharkskin line starts shipping. It costs almost twice
as much as a the regular premium lines but man oh man, 20' more in your cast
and it floats better than any line I've tried. But it's got a different
surface texture and it does make a little noise moving through the guides
when casting and shooting line.

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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I don't think it would match up very well to graphite.

It matches just fine and dandy to the Winston IM6, BIIt, & DL4, Sage LL, or
the T&T LPS series of rods.