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Old October 30th, 2003, 10:30 PM
Scott Seidman
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"slenon" wrote in news:x8bob.56689
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I'm reminded of a line from "Blues Brothers."


How much for de wimmen??

Scott
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Old October 30th, 2003, 10:59 PM
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"slenon" wrote in news:x8bob.56689
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I'm reminded of a line from "Blues Brothers."


How much for de wimmen??

Scott


I think it was " I hate Illinios Nazis." I could be wrong though.

Op --I don't know any Nazis, but I know Ken ain't no Nazi! Gutterscum,
maybe? Nazi, not a chance.--


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Old November 1st, 2003, 10:39 PM
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"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"slenon" wrote in news:x8bob.56689
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I'm reminded of a line from "Blues Brothers."


How much for de wimmen??

Scott


I think it was " I hate Illinios Nazis." I could be wrong though.

Op --I don't know any Nazis, but I know Ken ain't no Nazi! Gutterscum,
maybe? Nazi, not a chance.--

I always figured him to be one of them left wing pinko types.G

Mark


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Old October 31st, 2003, 05:25 AM
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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slenon wrote:

Pass. Enforce the laws we already have. ...


In other words, you weren't able to comprehend the two salient points
of that website, even though they were clearly marked #1 and #2.

If you are in favor of enforcing the Assault Weapons Ban, a law we
already have, you agree with salient point #1. If you agree that gun
dealers who break the law should be liable in civil suits, a law we
already have, you agree with salient point #2.

Geezus, unlike some of the whackos around here you really are as dumb
as you look.


While the website you reference poses item #2 in an inocuous light, and you
also ignorantly perpetuate the misunderstanding, item #2 does not refer to
dealers simply 'breaking the law'. There have been numerous lawsuits of
late attempting to sue dealers and gun manufacturers for simply selling
their product which later is used in a crime or accident. This has been
done in an attempt to replicate some of the successes of the tobacco
lawsuits. However, for the logic of the lawsuits to be the same, gun
manufacturers would have to have claimed their products don't kill people
and convenient stores, grocery stores and other outlets of tobacco products
should have been targeted as well.



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Old October 31st, 2003, 12:47 PM
Ken Fortenberry
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Tim Carter wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
... If you agree that gun
dealers who break the law should be liable in civil suits, a law we
already have, you agree with salient point #2. ...


While the website you reference poses item #2 in an inocuous light, and you
also ignorantly perpetuate the misunderstanding, item #2 does not refer to
dealers simply 'breaking the law'. There have been numerous lawsuits of
late attempting to sue dealers and gun manufacturers for simply selling
their product which later is used in a crime or accident. ...


If the problem is frivolous lawsuits, then deal with frivolous lawsuits.
Granting a blanket immunity would have the effect of making gun dealers
who break the law not liable in civil suits. The law proposed by the NRA
whackos is a bad one and I'm against it.

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Ken Fortenberry

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Old October 31st, 2003, 01:08 PM
Tim Carter
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Tim Carter wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
... If you agree that gun
dealers who break the law should be liable in civil suits, a law we
already have, you agree with salient point #2. ...


While the website you reference poses item #2 in an inocuous light, and

you
also ignorantly perpetuate the misunderstanding, item #2 does not refer

to
dealers simply 'breaking the law'. There have been numerous lawsuits of
late attempting to sue dealers and gun manufacturers for simply selling
their product which later is used in a crime or accident. ...


If the problem is frivolous lawsuits, then deal with frivolous lawsuits.
Granting a blanket immunity would have the effect of making gun dealers
who break the law not liable in civil suits. The law proposed by the NRA
whackos is a bad one and I'm against it.


Would you mind suggesting language that would cover the entire realm of
'frivolous lawsuit'? Even if you could, which I doubt without blanket
immunity, the political realities make it such that that it makes sense for
the NRA to propose just such legislation as it has...likely any proposal
will get watered down, making it important to ask for more than you might
even wish for in hopes of landing where you want to be. Stupid? Yes, and
it seems a good time to launch into a diatribe against politicians and
lawyers, but I suspect it's really just a good time to bitch about humanity.
But then, what would be the point?


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Ken Fortenberry



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Old October 31st, 2003, 11:25 AM
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"Tim Carter" wrote in message
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While the website you reference poses item #2 in an inocuous light, and

you
also ignorantly perpetuate the misunderstanding, item #2 does not refer to
dealers simply 'breaking the law'. There have been numerous lawsuits of
late attempting to sue dealers and gun manufacturers for simply selling
their product which later is used in a crime or accident. This has been
done in an attempt to replicate some of the successes of the tobacco
lawsuits. However, for the logic of the lawsuits to be the same, gun
manufacturers would have to have claimed their products don't kill

people...

You mean like; "Guns don't kill people, people kill people"?

If they aren't trying to say that their products don't kill people, then
what are they saying?

--riverman


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Old November 1st, 2003, 04:59 AM
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"riverman" wrote in message
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"Tim Carter" wrote in message
...


While the website you reference poses item #2 in an inocuous light, and

you
also ignorantly perpetuate the misunderstanding, item #2 does not refer

to
dealers simply 'breaking the law'. There have been numerous lawsuits of
late attempting to sue dealers and gun manufacturers for simply selling
their product which later is used in a crime or accident. This has been
done in an attempt to replicate some of the successes of the tobacco
lawsuits. However, for the logic of the lawsuits to be the same, gun
manufacturers would have to have claimed their products don't kill

people...

You mean like; "Guns don't kill people, people kill people"?

If they aren't trying to say that their products don't kill people, then
what are they saying?


If you've ever purchased a new firearm, you'd know that there are plenty of
warnings that come with it. My shotgun came with a instructional video
emphasizing safety. And yes, if I used my gun to kill someone, it would be
me doing the killing. Would be interesting to see that statistics of the
number of Italian over/unders on deathrow vs. just a cheap 'ole Remington
like mine.

Tim
-you can tell a society's worth by how well they treat their firearm
prisoners.


--riverman




 




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