Help with nymph fishing

Dave LaCourse wrote:

John writes:

Why would it not work? Fly suspended on mono under a bobber. Whether
it's a plastic bubble or them fist-sized hunks o' yarn ya'll call
indicators on the Rapid--what's the difference?

Because it's not fly fishing. Fly fishing in the regs of most states I've
fished (where it says "Fly fishing only") required a fly rod/reel. Now if that
Californicator wants to put a fly reel on that spinning rod and use the *line*
to cast it, then *that* would be termed fly fishing. I didn't make the rules,
John.

Dave, I wasn't questioning why is wasn't allowed, only the statement "I
doubt it would work," which I took to mean it wouldn't catch fish.

BTW, Oregon has "fly fishing only" waters, where you need to use the
entire FFing rig, and "fly only" waters, where the choice of rod, reel
and line is immaterial.

JR

Dave,
A lot of people believe that fishing with a fly rod, a bobber, 3 or 4 split
shot and perhaps a heavily weighted fly is not fly fishing

If you're going to throw that kind of hardware, get a spinning rod!


"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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Sierra Fisher, aka Anonymous, writes:

The best way to nymph fish is to go buy a spinning rod.

Just saw this post. That's probably how they do it in California, but I'd
love
to see you cast a nymph with a spinning rod. Oh, yeah, I forgot....you
spin
fishers do have that bubble thingy that you use. Not really sporty,
however,
dontcha think? It ain't allowed on the waters I fish, and I doubt it
would
work.
Dave

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Anonymous writes:

Dave,
A lot of people believe that fishing with a fly rod, a bobber, 3 or 4 split
shot and perhaps a heavily weighted fly is not fly fishing

If you're going to throw that kind of hardware, get a spinning rod!


Three or four split shot? Seldom use more than one. Heavily weighted flies?
Not the ones I tie, but bead-heads could be considerede "heavily weighted". I
guess you're one of those "purists" who think that dry fly fishing is the
*only* way to go. I suspect you would be in the minority in most fly fishing
forums. Although I do not endorse competitive fly fishing, the winners for
that past few years have been nymphers. Something to say about that.

Why on earth would you be so stubborn to fish only dries when 90% of a trout's
food comes from sub-surface nymphs and emergers? Is it because you don't know
how? I admit it is a little more difficult to figure out than dry fly fishing,
but hell, if *I* can do it with a whole helluvalot of success, *anyone* can do
it. Just takes time.

If fish are rising, I will go to an emerger or a dry. I enjoy dry fly fishing
more than nymphing (less work), but the fish don't always cooperate.

When I go fly fishing, the number one priority is to find peace with myself
and my surroundings. I haven't failed yet. Catching fish is the second
priority and I will accomplish that whether I have to use dries, emergers,
nymphs, wets, or streamers. Again, I seldom fail.

Your life must be a boring one if you fail to investigate and explore all forms
of fooling Mr. Trout with a fly rod.
Dave

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The main reason I go fishing is to succeed in a challenge. My challenge
is not to see how many fish I can catch. If it were, I might use a net..or
dynamite!! How you catch fish is, or should be, more important than how
many. If you argue against that, why aren't you using a net or dynamite?
Or even bait!! Straight-line nymphing is only one step better!!

Nymphing is what you do until the fish start rising.


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Anonymous writes:

Dave,
A lot of people believe that fishing with a fly rod, a bobber, 3 or 4
split
shot and perhaps a heavily weighted fly is not fly fishing

If you're going to throw that kind of hardware, get a spinning rod!


Three or four split shot? Seldom use more than one. Heavily weighted
flies?
Not the ones I tie, but bead-heads could be considerede "heavily
weighted". I
guess you're one of those "purists" who think that dry fly fishing is the
*only* way to go. I suspect you would be in the minority in most fly
fishing
forums. Although I do not endorse competitive fly fishing, the winners
for
that past few years have been nymphers. Something to say about that.

Why on earth would you be so stubborn to fish only dries when 90% of a
trout's
food comes from sub-surface nymphs and emergers? Is it because you don't
know
how? I admit it is a little more difficult to figure out than dry fly
fishing,
but hell, if *I* can do it with a whole helluvalot of success, *anyone*
can do
it. Just takes time.

If fish are rising, I will go to an emerger or a dry. I enjoy dry fly
fishing
more than nymphing (less work), but the fish don't always cooperate.

When I go fly fishing, the number one priority is to find peace with
myself
and my surroundings. I haven't failed yet. Catching fish is the second
priority and I will accomplish that whether I have to use dries, emergers,
nymphs, wets, or streamers. Again, I seldom fail.

Your life must be a boring one if you fail to investigate and explore all
forms
of fooling Mr. Trout with a fly rod.
Dave

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Sierra Fisher, aka Anonymous, writes:
The best way to nymph fish is to go buy a spinning rod.

Dave LaCourse wrote
Just saw this post. That's probably how they do it in California, but I'd
love
to see you cast a nymph with a spinning rod. Oh, yeah, I forgot....you
spin
fishers do have that bubble thingy that you use. Not really sporty,
however,
dontcha think? It ain't allowed on the waters I fish, and I doubt it
would
work.
Dave

Dave,
Us Californicators are not all heathens. We do fish nymphs with a fly rod
and sinking line, although I do prefer the dry fly. There are times when a
dry just won't do and you have to tie on a wet or go fishless. There is a
small lake nearby where there are pan fish. The best way to catch them is
with a spinning rod, bubble and mini jig. A mini jig is sort of like those
lead head lures you guys call nymphs.
Ernie

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:31:37 GMT, "Ernie"
wrote:


Sierra Fisher, aka Anonymous, writes:
The best way to nymph fish is to go buy a spinning rod.

Dave LaCourse wrote
Just saw this post. That's probably how they do it in California, but I'd
love
to see you cast a nymph with a spinning rod. Oh, yeah, I forgot....you
spin
fishers do have that bubble thingy that you use. Not really sporty,
however,
dontcha think? It ain't allowed on the waters I fish, and I doubt it
would
work.
Dave

Dave,
Us Californicators are not all heathens. We do fish nymphs with a fly rod
and sinking line, although I do prefer the dry fly. There are times when a
dry just won't do and you have to tie on a wet or go fishless. There is a
small lake nearby where there are pan fish. The best way to catch them is
with a spinning rod, bubble and mini jig. A mini jig is sort of like those
lead head lures you guys call nymphs.
Ernie


Not the "best" way, just the most efficient. The best way would be on a 0 weight
rod with a small floating fly on a 12' leader with a 7x tippet. YMMV.

g.c.

George Cleveland writes:

Not the "best" way, just the most efficient. The best way would be on a 0
weight
rod with a small floating fly on a 12' leader with a 7x tippet. YMMV

I agree, but MM would have to have at least a 3 weight rod and 6x. You'd never
land a big salmon or a monster brookie on a 0 (1) weight. If, by some
extraordinary chance that you did, the fish would probably not survive the long
fight. A minute a pound.

I have fished a 2 weight with light tippet and dries to catch rat fish (small
{8 - 10 inch}) salmon from Paul Goodwin's Kiddy Pool.
Dave

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Ernie writes:

A mini jig is sort of like those
lead head lures you guys call nymphs.

I've never seen a "lead head" nymph, Ernie. I doubt it would work well in a
stream.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

it works. before i started fly fishing i put a fly on a bubble and floated
down a small stream and caught my first fish on a fly in about 10 minutes.
of course i never believed a fish could really be caught on a fake bug.
now, i think it is a real miracle.

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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Sierra Fisher, aka Anonymous, writes:

The best way to nymph fish is to go buy a spinning rod.

Just saw this post. That's probably how they do it in California, but I'd
love
to see you cast a nymph with a spinning rod. Oh, yeah, I forgot....you
spin
fishers do have that bubble thingy that you use. Not really sporty,
however,
dontcha think? It ain't allowed on the waters I fish, and I doubt it
would
work.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html