The Other Adult Beverage continued.

Since we are on roff awash in coffe experts I would like to ask for
opinions on the Braun Tassimo system.
I am thinking of getting one for the saltmine. What coffee I have
tried so far is pretty good. Much better than the Mr. Coffee I threw
in the dumpster.
I may get one for home as it makes hot chocolate and some other fu-fu
drinks women like.
I also have a Starbucks french-press travel mug that I may be giving
away soon. It sounds like a great theory but so far all the coffee I
have made taste like mud. A few more trials and It's on its way to
Goodwill.

BJ Conner wrote:

I also have a Starbucks french-press travel mug that I may be giving
away soon. It sounds like a great theory but so far all the coffee I
have made taste like mud. A few more trials and It's on its way to
Goodwill.

Try using a very coarse grind.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On Jan 12, 12:36*pm, Steve wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:52:23 -0800 (PST), BJ Conner

wrote:
I would like to ask for
opinions on the Braun Tassimo system.

If that's the "T-disc capsule" machine I would recommend against it
for that reason alone.
There is a coffee machine for almost any taste or need.
What is it you want from the machine?

When you say that your french press makes a "muddy" taste, do you mean
the actual taste, or that the coffee is muddy from sediment?


The coffee that I had from the Braun machine was good. The little T-
disk are spendy. About $0.50 a cup. Supposedly you can get them on the
net and at discount places cheaper. Starbucks is even selling them
now.

The coffee pot I just threw away was somekind of drip thing that cost
$29. It made 8 or 10 cups of which only 2 or 3 were fit to drink. It
was a bitch to clean. It was the kind you would expect in a
construction trailer. It's worth the extra cost to me to get ONE cup
without the hassel and mess that goes with the old pot.

I have been grinding the coffee for the french press to fine. I am
going to try counting the beans and grinding them up in pepper
grinder. When I use the Krupp coffee grinder/ dubbing blender the
coffee gets ground pretty fine.

Without getting fancy, I've used a lot of coffee makers over the
years, even sold them in my youth. One that I've settled on as a day-
to-day drip maker is the Braun. Whether in the UK, Germany or the US,
the basic Braun model has served well over the years.
By the way, for those interested in Yank football, this Seattle at
Green Bay game in the snow is a hoot. I love it when the players
slide an extra 10 yards after contact.
Frank Reid

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
Without getting fancy, I've used a lot of coffee makers over the
years, even sold them in my youth. One that I've settled on as a day-
to-day drip maker is the Braun. Whether in the UK, Germany or the US,
the basic Braun model has served well over the years.
By the way, for those interested in Yank football, this Seattle at
Green Bay game in the snow is a hoot. I love it when the players
slide an extra 10 yards after contact.
Frank Reid

I've needed a good snow game like this for a long time!

Op

On Jan 12, 5:52 pm, BJ Conner wrote:
Since we are on roff awash in coffe experts I would like to ask for
opinions on the Braun Tassimo system.
I am thinking of getting one for the saltmine. What coffee I have
tried so far is pretty good. Much better than the Mr. Coffee I threw
in the dumpster.
I may get one for home as it makes hot chocolate and some other fu-fu
drinks women like.
I also have a Starbucks french-press travel mug that I may be giving
away soon. It sounds like a great theory but so far all the coffee I
have made taste like mud. A few more trials and It's on its way to
Goodwill.

What you use and how you use it depends largely on why you do it. I
only really like espresso, because I enjoy the taste, but making it
properly so that I really enjoy it takes time and some application. I
don´t drink coffee from the "drip" machines which are ubiquitous here,
I just don´t like the taste much. This has nothing to do with
snobbery, I just don´t like it.

Making stuff like hot chocolate etc in many machines will ruin the
taste of your coffee!

I looked at some of the "coffee pad" machines, and tried the results
at various friends who have them, but the good ones, ( The Saeco
machines are popular here), are very expensive, and also a lot of
bother, as you have to keep them clean and serviced for optimum
operation. Also. you never really know what is in the pads you buy,
so the taste varies quite a lot.

For ease of use and convenience, a couple of people I know like this
machine;

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Saeco_ODEA_GO_...00205__6710036

It delivers a pretty good coffee with the right beans, ( for my tastes
anyway), although I have only tried a few cups from one machine
belonging to a friend.

The best simple small espresso machines are easy to use and service,
but they are no use if you drink a lot of coffee. If you have to mess
on with stuff every time you want a coffee, and you only get one cup
at a time, then you can´t really use stuff like this in the workplace
etc.

Trouble with a lot of this stuff is, many people drink coffee "because
it´s what they drink", and for no other specific reasons. Whatever
they use is a compromise between taste and convenience, or they don´t
much care anyway! Once you actually have gone to the trouble of
finding a good cup of coffee, ( depending on your particular tastes),
then you will be much more critical of a lot of other stuff, or even
actively eschew it.

You really have to find what´s best for you, practically regardless of
what other people say...........................

MC

On Jan 12, 7:14*pm, Mike wrote:
On Jan 12, 5:52 pm, BJ Conner wrote:

Since we are on roff awash in coffe experts I would like to ask for
opinions on the Braun Tassimo system.
I am thinking of getting one for the saltmine. * What coffee *I have
tried so far is pretty good. *Much better than the Mr. Coffee I threw
in the dumpster.
I may get one for home as it makes hot chocolate and some other fu-fu
drinks women like.
I also have a Starbucks french-press travel mug that I may be giving
away soon. *It sounds like a great theory but so far all the coffee I
have made taste like mud. A few more trials and It's on its way to
Goodwill.

What you use and how you use it depends largely on why you do it. I
only really *like espresso, because I enjoy the taste, *but making *it
properly so that I really enjoy it takes time and some application. *I
don´t drink coffee from the "drip" machines which are ubiquitous here,
I just don´t like the taste much. This has nothing to do with
snobbery, I just don´t like it.

Making stuff like hot chocolate etc in many machines will ruin the
taste of your coffee!

I looked at some of the "coffee pad" *machines, and tried the results
at various friends who have them, but the good ones, ( The Saeco
machines are popular here), are very expensive, and also a lot of
bother, as you have to keep them clean and serviced for optimum
operation. *Also. you never really know what is in the pads you buy,
so the taste varies quite a lot.

For ease of use and convenience, a couple of people I know like this
machine;

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Saeco_ODEA_GO_...00205__6710036

It delivers a pretty good coffee with the right beans, ( for my tastes
anyway), although I have only tried a few cups from one machine
belonging to a friend.

The best simple small espresso machines are easy to use and service,
but they are no use if you drink a lot of coffee. If you have to mess
on with stuff every time you want a coffee, and you only get one cup
at a time, then you can´t really use stuff like this in the workplace
etc.

Trouble with a lot of this stuff is, many people drink coffee "because
it´s what they drink", and for no other specific reasons. Whatever
they use is a compromise between taste and convenience, or they don´t
much care anyway! Once you actually have gone to the trouble of
finding a good cup of coffee, ( depending on your particular tastes),
then you will be much more critical of a lot of other stuff, or even
actively eschew it.

You really have to find what´s best for you, practically regardless of
what other people say...........................

MC

That's an espresso machine, totally different from the Braun Tassimo.

On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, BJ Conner wrote:
On Jan 12, 7:14 pm, Mike wrote:



On Jan 12, 5:52 pm, BJ Conner wrote:

Since we are on roff awash in coffe experts I would like to ask for
opinions on the Braun Tassimo system.
I am thinking of getting one for the saltmine. What coffee I have
tried so far is pretty good. Much better than the Mr. Coffee I threw
in the dumpster.
I may get one for home as it makes hot chocolate and some other fu-fu
drinks women like.
I also have a Starbucks french-press travel mug that I may be giving
away soon. It sounds like a great theory but so far all the coffee I
have made taste like mud. A few more trials and It's on its way to
Goodwill.

What you use and how you use it depends largely on why you do it. I
only really like espresso, because I enjoy the taste, but making it
properly so that I really enjoy it takes time and some application. I
don´t drink coffee from the "drip" machines which are ubiquitous here,
I just don´t like the taste much. This has nothing to do with
snobbery, I just don´t like it.

Making stuff like hot chocolate etc in many machines will ruin the
taste of your coffee!

I looked at some of the "coffee pad" machines, and tried the results
at various friends who have them, but the good ones, ( The Saeco
machines are popular here), are very expensive, and also a lot of
bother, as you have to keep them clean and serviced for optimum
operation. Also. you never really know what is in the pads you buy,
so the taste varies quite a lot.

For ease of use and convenience, a couple of people I know like this
machine;

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Saeco_ODEA_GO_...00205__6710036

It delivers a pretty good coffee with the right beans, ( for my tastes
anyway), although I have only tried a few cups from one machine
belonging to a friend.

The best simple small espresso machines are easy to use and service,
but they are no use if you drink a lot of coffee. If you have to mess
on with stuff every time you want a coffee, and you only get one cup
at a time, then you can´t really use stuff like this in the workplace
etc.

Trouble with a lot of this stuff is, many people drink coffee "because
it´s what they drink", and for no other specific reasons. Whatever
they use is a compromise between taste and convenience, or they don´t
much care anyway! Once you actually have gone to the trouble of
finding a good cup of coffee, ( depending on your particular tastes),
then you will be much more critical of a lot of other stuff, or even
actively eschew it.

You really have to find what´s best for you, practically regardless of
what other people say...........................

MC

That's an espresso machine, totally different from the Braun Tassimo.

Indeed, but you can make many of the "same" drinks with it, which is
what many people do because they taste a lot better.

The pad machines have severe limitations. Here are some reviews of the
machine you asked about;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Braun-Tassim.../dp/B000795X4C

http://www.lordpercy.com/braun_tassimo.htm ( note this quote from
this site

QUOTE Overall Braun has designed an incredibly easy machine to use,
no brainpower needed. At the end of the day it does exactly what it
claims to do. Your never going to get that same smooth coffee taste
from roasting and grinding your own beans, but as far as the Braun
Tassimo goes it's delayed release has allowed them to learn form any
mistakes that Philips made with the Senseo and take the pod systems
into a different league.UNQUOTE

http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews86592.html

MC

On Jan 13, 8:47*am, Mike wrote:
On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, BJ Conner wrote:





On Jan 12, 7:14 pm, Mike wrote:

On Jan 12, 5:52 pm, BJ Conner wrote:

Since we are on roff awash in coffe experts I would like to ask for
opinions on the Braun Tassimo system.
I am thinking of getting one for the saltmine. * What coffee *I have
tried so far is pretty good. *Much better than the Mr. Coffee I threw
in the dumpster.
I may get one for home as it makes hot chocolate and some other fu-fu
drinks women like.
I also have a Starbucks french-press travel mug that I may be giving
away soon. *It sounds like a great theory but so far all the coffee I
have made taste like mud. A few more trials and It's on its way to
Goodwill.

What you use and how you use it depends largely on why you do it. I
only really *like espresso, because I enjoy the taste, *but making *it
properly so that I really enjoy it takes time and some application. *I
don´t drink coffee from the "drip" machines which are ubiquitous here,
I just don´t like the taste much. This has nothing to do with
snobbery, I just don´t like it.

Making stuff like hot chocolate etc in many machines will ruin the
taste of your coffee!

I looked at some of the "coffee pad" *machines, and tried the results
at various friends who have them, but the good ones, ( The Saeco
machines are popular here), are very expensive, and also a lot of
bother, as you have to keep them clean and serviced for optimum
operation. *Also. you never really know what is in the pads you buy,
so the taste varies quite a lot.

For ease of use and convenience, a couple of people I know like this
machine;

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Saeco_ODEA_GO_...00205__6710036

It delivers a pretty good coffee with the right beans, ( for my tastes
anyway), although I have only tried a few cups from one machine
belonging to a friend.

The best simple small espresso machines are easy to use and service,
but they are no use if you drink a lot of coffee. If you have to mess
on with stuff every time you want a coffee, and you only get one cup
at a time, then you can´t really use stuff like this in the workplace
etc.

Trouble with a lot of this stuff is, many people drink coffee "because
it´s what they drink", and for no other specific reasons. Whatever
they use is a compromise between taste and convenience, or they don´t
much care anyway! Once you actually have gone to the trouble of
finding a good cup of coffee, ( depending on your particular tastes),
then you will be much more critical of a lot of other stuff, or even
actively eschew it.

You really have to find what´s best for you, practically regardless of
what other people say...........................

MC

That's an espresso machine, totally different from the Braun Tassimo.

Indeed, but you can make many of the "same" drinks with it, which is
what many people do because they taste a lot better.

The pad machines have severe limitations. Here are some reviews of the
machine you asked about;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Braun-Tassim...o-Machine/dp/B...

http://www.lordpercy.com/braun_tassimo.htm*( note this quote from
this site

QUOTE *Overall Braun has designed an incredibly easy machine to use,
no brainpower needed. At the end of the day it does exactly what it
claims to do. Your never going to get that same smooth coffee taste
from roasting and grinding your own beans, but as far as the Braun
Tassimo goes it's delayed release has allowed them to learn form any
mistakes that Philips made with the Senseo and take the pod systems
into a different league.UNQUOTE

http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews86592.html

MC- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I read all the reviews and have even had a few cups made in one.
I was really looking for reviews by roffians. It was clear from the
first "Other Aadult Beverage..." that we had some world class experts
here.

On Jan 13, 7:13 pm, BJ Conner wrote:


I read all the reviews and have even had a few cups made in one.
I was really looking for reviews by roffians. It was clear from the
first "Other Aadult Beverage..." that we had some world class experts
here.

Well, the only real criterion here is "Did you like the coffee from
this machine?". If you did, then it will make no difference what
anybody says. I don´t consider myself an expert, or even particularly
knowledgeable at all in regard to coffee. But I know what I like.

Most of the people I have spoken to about this ( it is an ever
recurring topic here, as a very large percentage of the population
drinks coffee, or at least purports to), have all said that many of
the coffee pad type machines are not very good, but this too is simply
a matter of taste, and I mean taste in the normal sense of the word,
how it feels on your tongue.Other people´s opinions will not change
your taste buds or other perceptions.

If you are searching for a machine that makes "THE" perfect cup of
coffee, then you might as well give up now, because there is no such
thing, If you want "your" perfect cup of coffee, then you need to do
some research and try a lot. I limited my research, such as it was,
to espresso, because that was all I was interested in. I only tried a
very limited number of beans, and I have absolutely no idea of
blending etc etc etc.

It is similar to fishing rods, what you consider perfect may be a
disaster to somebody else.

Using an espresso machine to produce the basic drink, one can produce
a number of other drinks as well, so an espresso machine does not
limit you to making espresso.

MC