Dry and dropper question

Lazarus Cooke wrote:

Mike wrote:

Tie your dropper on, and mount your dry fly using a loop. Just form a
loop in the line, thread the loop through the eye of the hook, and
over the fly. Pull slowly tight.

If you want to adjust the depth, just loosen the loop and slide the
dry fly along the leader.

This wont work with very small dries, but those would be pointless on
a dry and dropper rig anyway.


Wow! That is such an elegant solution. And I've never heard of it
anywhere before.


I second that. Very nice solution.

Tim Lysyk

On Fri, 02 May 2008 00:48:44 GMT, Tim Lysyk wrote:

Lazarus Cooke wrote:

Mike wrote:

Tie your dropper on, and mount your dry fly using a loop. Just form a
loop in the line, thread the loop through the eye of the hook, and
over the fly. Pull slowly tight.

If you want to adjust the depth, just loosen the loop and slide the
dry fly along the leader.

This wont work with very small dries, but those would be pointless on
a dry and dropper rig anyway.


Wow! That is such an elegant solution. And I've never heard of it
anywhere before.

It's not a new idea and there's a reason many folks who FF only have not
heard of it before...

Here's a hint - if it were such a fantastic idea, you could use it in
all fishing situations to hold the fly to the leader, even without a
dropper below.

Simply try it with any hook and mono, and you should see why it ain't
all that great for FFing.

HTH,
R


I second that. Very nice solution.

Tim Lysyk

On May 2, 4:58 pm, wrote:

It's not a new idea and there's a reason many folks who FF only have not
heard of it before...

Here's a hint - if it were such a fantastic idea, you could use it in
all fishing situations to hold the fly to the leader, even without a
dropper below.

Simply try it with any hook and mono, and you should see why it ain't
all that great for FFing.

HTH,
R

It is purely to solve the problem described in the original question.
It would be quite pointless using such a rig to attach flies like this
as a matter of course.

Nobody with any sense would even consider it................

Ah, I see.......... never mind.

MC

Greetings Mike, I was hoping that you'd be around to answer my
question. :-)

Is there a way to make a dry and dropper rig so that adjusting the
depth of the dropper could be done easily? I do not want to use an
adjustable indicator or any other weird gadget, just two flies and
tippet / leader material.

Mike Tie your dropper on, and mount your dry fly using a loop. Just
Mike form a loop in the line, thread the loop through the eye of the
Mike hook, and over the fly. Pull slowly tight. If you want to adjust
Mike the depth, just loosen the loop and slide the dry fly along the
Mike leader.

Sounds like a _very_ elegant solution. I need this kind of a rig at
the beginning of next month when I fish for grayling with caddis larva
imitations. I will write a report here on any observations I will make
about that rig during the week.

Thanks!

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Jarmo Hurri

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On May 2, 9:48 am, Jarmo Hurri wrote:
Greetings Mike, I was hoping that you'd be around to answer my
question. :-)

Is there a way to make a dry and dropper rig so that adjusting the
depth of the dropper could be done easily? I do not want to use an
adjustable indicator or any other weird gadget, just two flies and
tippet / leader material.

Mike Tie your dropper on, and mount your dry fly using a loop. Just
Mike form a loop in the line, thread the loop through the eye of the
Mike hook, and over the fly. Pull slowly tight. If you want to adjust
Mike the depth, just loosen the loop and slide the dry fly along the
Mike leader.

Sounds like a _very_ elegant solution. I need this kind of a rig at
the beginning of next month when I fish for grayling with caddis larva
imitations. I will write a report here on any observations I will make
about that rig during the week.

Thanks!

--
Jarmo Hurri

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I will look forward to hearing your comments. I like this solution a
lot, because it does not use any knots either. I used the same leader
for a few weeks, and got a lot of fish, without having to change
anything at all. I did use a five foot tippet, so that I had plenty
of adjustment. I prefer to use the leader ring, as I like the "stand
off" fly better than just threading the leader loop through the dry
fly eye, but both work.

TL
MC

With regard to "bumping" fish, when using the "New Zealand rig", this
is a lot worse when fishing for grayling, because of the way they rise
and take the fly. Indeed, I can´t remember hooking a single fish on
the dry while using it. I did try it for a while, but went back to
other methods after a season or so. I don´t use it for trout fishing
any more either.

As this sliding dry fly rig is "new", I don´t have much experience
with it, ( only half a grayling season), but it looks like becoming
one of my "go to" rigs for many situations.

Obviously, this rig is primarily designed to allow the nymph, soft
hackle, etc to fish at the right depth, but I still like to get the
fish that occasionally hit the dry fly. Otherwise, I might just as
well use a sliding indicator instead of a fly.

TL
MC

With regard to the twist in the loop. You can twist the loop before
you thread it through the eye, or after. If you do it before, it can
be difficult to pull the loop tight. It really does lock the loop
better though.

Once again a sketch of what I mean. This is twisted before of course.
If you do it after, thread the loop first, and then twist it before
threading the fly through it.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9982/twistuu2.jpg

TL
MC