Don't let yer meat loaf

"Wolfgang" wrote in news:botm2i$1iom66$1@ID-
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I offer the same response I did to Scott. There are many foods that
inspire fierce loyalty to a particular recipe, but no others that I
can think of that prod millions of idiots to proclaim that there is
only ONE REAL recipe......and that they just happen to possess it.

Wolfgang





Gumbo, mayhaps?? Yes, the constituency is somewhat limited, but I haven't
had the same gumbo twice this week.

Scott

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in news:botm2i$1iom66$1@ID-
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I offer the same response I did to Scott. There are many foods
that
inspire fierce loyalty to a particular recipe, but no others that
I
can think of that prod millions of idiots to proclaim that there
is
only ONE REAL recipe......and that they just happen to possess it.

Wolfgang





Gumbo, mayhaps?? Yes, the constituency is somewhat limited, but I
haven't
had the same gumbo twice this week.

I'm not very familiar with gumbo recipes myself. I seem to recall a
wee controversy about it.....um....Forty and RDean, I
believe.....about a year ago, maybe? At any rate, while it may fall
into the same class as "chili" in terms of misguided loyalty, your
observation about limited constituency is THE key ingredient.

Wolfgang

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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Gumbo, mayhaps??

Good example. It's all just stew. If your stew's not different every time
you cook it, you're not doing it right.

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in message
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I think spaghetti sauce runs a close second, although the variants
all seem
to have some similarity to each other. Barbeque sauce, ribs,
homemade mac
and cheese, and how to cut a watermelon all come in the running,
too, IMHO.

--riverman

I offer the same response I did to Scott. There are many foods that
inspire fierce loyalty to a particular recipe, but no others that I
can think of that prod millions of idiots to proclaim that there is
only ONE REAL recipe......and that they just happen to possess it.


Millions of Ummerican Idjots, at least. I'm willing to bet (figuratively
speaking, of course) that there are as many idjuts (by percentage) in Italia
that claim to have the recipe for 'real spaghetti sauce' as there are
chilliots in the US. And Meximommas who claim to have the 'real salsa'
recipe. And some Italian might scratch their head in wonder at the claim
that 'millions proclaim there is one real chili recipe'...they might not
know ANYONE who claims to have a recipe.

I suppose the chili effect is in effect, in effect because a) us Ummericans
tend to be rather absolute, b) even if you **** it up, its pretty good, so
any clown can claim a screwup was intentional and given to them by their
late granddad who rode with Pancho Villa, and c) any moron can make chili,
and usually does.

--riverman
(who makes a MEAN chili, which is, of course, the one real recipe.)

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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I offer the same response I did to Scott. There are many foods that
inspire fierce loyalty to a particular recipe, but no others that I
can think of that prod millions of idiots to proclaim that there is
only ONE REAL recipe......and that they just happen to possess it.

Wolfgang


Funniest news anecdote of the week was concerning a chili cook-off
somewhere. One contestant had to drop out, so his brother took his place.
And since he didn't know how to cook, he just went around and got samples
from the 80 other entrants, put it in his pot, and proceeded to win the
contest. I think that says something about *authentic* chili. Not sure
what though.

It's like somebody arguing that toasted bread with whatever you have in the
fridge or garden isn't bruschetta because it's not all tomatoes and basil.

--Stan (I don't need no stinkin' recipe)

"Stan Gula" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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I offer the same response I did to Scott. There are many foods
that
inspire fierce loyalty to a particular recipe, but no others that
I
can think of that prod millions of idiots to proclaim that there
is
only ONE REAL recipe......and that they just happen to possess it.

Wolfgang


Funniest news anecdote of the week was concerning a chili cook-off
somewhere. One contestant had to drop out, so his brother took his
place.
And since he didn't know how to cook, he just went around and got
samples
from the 80 other entrants, put it in his pot, and proceeded to win
the
contest. I think that says something about *authentic* chili. Not
sure
what though.

It's like somebody arguing that toasted bread with whatever you have
in the
fridge or garden isn't bruschetta because it's not all tomatoes and
basil.

--Stan (I don't need no stinkin' recipe)

I'd have a bet a shiny new nickel that bruschetta would eventually
come up in this thread.

Wolfgang
who was prepared to make it so.......if necessary.

Wolfgang wrote:

"Conan the Librarian" wrote in message
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Uh ... meatloaf?


Hm......meatloaf......well, yeah, meatloaf does come in for its share
of favorite variants. However, I think it lacks the million or so one
and only authentic recipes, each one with its own loyal cadre of
adherents willing to die....or, preferably, to kill.... to protect its
sanctity, that chili enjoys.

Of course you're right. I used to live near a fellow who was a
regular participant in one of the (thousand-or-so) chili cookoffs, so I
learned the "proper" way to make it from him. It's roughly as follows:

*cubed* beef, not ground
New Mexican chiles, dried and ground
ancho chiles, dried and ground
serrano chiles, fresh, to taste
onions
oregano (Mexican, not Mediterranean)
cumin seeds, freshly ground
water (may substitute Lone Star beer for some or all)

"Real" chili *never* has tomatoes, beans, olives, mushrooms,
sprouts, spaghetti or any of that other sissy sh*t that damyankees and
them other faggots put in it.

At least that's what he told me.

I'm somewhat surprised to suddenly see these references to chocolate
in chili. I'm going to have to give this a try sometime soon.

I'm guessing that my mom got it from a Diana Kennedy cookbook, and I
expect that she stole it from the Aztecs. Well, not firsthand or
anything (she's not *quite* that old), but they used chocolate in
cooking/sauces long before the Spaniards arrived.


Chuck Vance

I'm somewhat surprised to suddenly see these references to chocolate
in chili. I'm going to have to give this a try sometime soon.

I'm guessing that my mom got it from a Diana Kennedy cookbook, and I
expect that she stole it from the Aztecs. Well, not firsthand or
anything (she's not *quite* that old), but they used chocolate in
cooking/sauces long before the Spaniards arrived.
Chuck Vance

I've been known to throw a little prepared Mole into chili from time to
time.

Otherwise, I pretty much agree with your ingredient list and your exclusion
list.

I once took a large pot of "Texas Red" to a Quaker meeting potluck where I
was informed that all dishes were to be vegetarian. Since I was a
first-timer at this gathering, they graciously included my dish in the food
line. By the time I got through the line to get some food, there were
several large containers filled with what was called "vegetarian chili." My
container was empty. I guess somehow that meat in my dish transubstantiated
to veggies.

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

"slenon" wrote in message
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I've been known to throw a little prepared Mole into chili from time to
time.

Otherwise, I pretty much agree with your ingredient list and your
exclusion
list.

I once took a large pot of "Texas Red" to a Quaker meeting potluck where I
was informed that all dishes were to be vegetarian. Since I was a
first-timer at this gathering, they graciously included my dish in the
food
line. By the time I got through the line to get some food, there were
several large containers filled with what was called "vegetarian chili."
My
container was empty. I guess somehow that meat in my dish
transubstantiated
to veggies.



Jumpinup. There's a word you don't encounter every day!

--riverman

Jumpinup. There's a word you don't encounter every day!
--riverman

Had to be the only explanation. I'd hate to think all those nice
vegetarians were corrupted by my chili.

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm