OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gun purchase/ownership?

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:25:41 -0400, Deucalion
wrote:


Doesn't stop you from using her to pay for your cigarettes though.

What? Gunney is a cigarette choker?

Sigh..yes..Im a smoker, but one down to about 4 a day. Down from 20.

But Im wearing a nicotine patch, and will be on my lower dose patches
next weekend. Afterall...quiting after 40 yrs isnt easy. Crom knows
Ive tried so many many times before.

You told us that you had quit a couple of days ago.


I had. In fact...Ive quit 4 times since Jan 21. Though Im doing pretty
well today. Only 4 smokes and have had the same patch on for 3 days.

While I enjoy smoking...it somehow doenst have the same "fix" that it
used to have. Maybe Ill really be able to beat it this time.

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Mar 31, 7:13*pm, "Mark H. Bowen" wrote:


--btw, can ya get alt.binaries.pictures.fishing? You gotta see my new
fishin' buddy, Bear, if ya ain't already?--

Haven't tried to get a.b.p.f. yet. Google groups is a bit of a pain
in the ass. I'll take a look today.

g.

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
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On Mar 28, 2:53 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day



wrote:
T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:

Too_Many_Tools wrote in
news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:

Your opinion?

TMT

If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the
same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime
(naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.

Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!

With gun racks.

TL

Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?

Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.

Gunner

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become
corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu


Actually it is not.

Why does society restrict your so called "right"?

Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?

TM


wow hope they don't take my hammer and tools away........

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:40:04 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



Actually it is not.

Why does society restrict your so called "right"?

Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?

TM


wow hope they don't take my hammer and tools away........


Depends on what the felon did.


Not according to the Law

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:27:17 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



Depends on what the felon did.


Not according to the Law

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

The question was "Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?"
In the "Wild West", a felon got his guns back as he left prison. As to
the "Wild West", you were more likely to be murdered in NYC under Tammany
Hall.

Oh..of course Im all in favor of the felon getting his guns back after
a time in prison.

If there had been a need to kill him, they would have done it before
he got to prison. Even during his crimes.

And there is always the next time.


Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

"lurk" wrote in message
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
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On Mar 28, 2:53 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day



wrote:
T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:

Too_Many_Tools wrote in
news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:

Your opinion?

TMT

If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the
same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime
(naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.

Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!

With gun racks.

TL

Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?

Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.

Gunner

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become
corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire
ritual
and moral principles."
-Sun Tzu


Actually it is not.

Why does society restrict your so called "right"?

Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?

TM


wow hope they don't take my hammer and tools away........


Depends on what the felon did.

"lurk" wrote in
:


"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
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. On Mar 28, 2:53 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day



wrote:
T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:

Too_Many_Tools wrote in
news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:

Your opinion?

TMT

If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do
the same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime
(naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.

Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!

With gun racks.

TL

Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?

Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.

Gunner

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the
whetstone before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad,
to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire
ritual and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu


Actually it is not.

Why does society restrict your so called "right"?

Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?

If they have paid their debt to society, why not?


--
Sleep well, tonight.......

RD (The Sandman)

Some people are like Slinkies...
They are really good for nothing...

But they still bring a smile to your face
when you push them down a flight of stairs.

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:40:04 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



Actually it is not.

Why does society restrict your so called "right"?

Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?

TM


wow hope they don't take my hammer and tools away........


Depends on what the felon did.


Not according to the Law

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

The question was "Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?"
In the "Wild West", a felon got his guns back as he left prison. As to
the "Wild West", you were more likely to be murdered in NYC under Tammany
Hall.

On Apr 3, 9:35*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


Oh..of course Im all in favor of the felon getting his guns back after
a time in prison.

If there had been a need to kill him, they would have done it before
he got to prison. Even during his crimes.

And there is always the next time.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont *kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." *Gunner- Hide quoted text -


It is truely amazing to learn how many of you whack job, gun
extremists sponge off of the public social service tit. When the two
things are added together it totals to ARMED WELFARE SLACKERS.

That strange conjunction is similar to the fact that many convicts I
have met are also strong adherents of the 2nd amendment.

Gun rights supporters would do well to stop pretending that all of
their allies are angels, so the country can make the changes that will
get military grade weapons out of the hands of the radicals and
criminals, and preserve the rights of responsible citizens to own
arms.

Dave

On Apr 5, 12:37*am, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Maybe his felony is cooking the books. *Not a violent crime. *An embezzler.
Lots of felonies are not for violence.- Hide quoted text -


Great. A convicted embezzler with a gun. That's reassuring. Bet the
parole officers will just celebrate that innovation.

Dave