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Old August 25th, 2009, 02:36 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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On Aug 23, 10:17*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Tom Littleton wrote:
"Giles" wrote
Idiot.


hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's
starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is
being brought to the forefront by the writer himself.


Poking a pile of **** with a stick will only serve to
make it stink worse. Better to just step around it and
remember to avoid it.

--
Ken Fortenberry


BOO!

g.
hee, hee, hee.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 11:16 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:57:16 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:


"Giles" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 8:39 am, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb

wrote:

I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's:
1) odorless as possible
2) not gooey or sticky
3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal)
4) lasts for a couple hours at least
5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible.


Hope that isn't asking too much?????
Thanks in advance...
Doug


If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the
DEET and
don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). There are
dozens of
other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a
limited
time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon
lotion)
to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of
chrysanthemum,
which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google
search
for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most
of my
time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is
the
most readily available and effective.

A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia
VERY
handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of
the
ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a
"tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a
Gatorade
bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a
child
(or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once
held
consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or
worse, it
might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about
religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry....

Good luck,
R


Idiot.

g.


hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's
starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is
being brought to the forefront by the writer himself.
Tom


Aw, he's just mad because Ken got to party with Barney Frank and he didn't...I
betcha there was plenty of Drambuie and sweet vermouth consumed at THAT little
shindig...

Beefcake - it's what was for dinner,
R
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Old August 24th, 2009, 08:19 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
DaveS
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On Aug 24, 3:16*am, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:57:16 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:

"Giles" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 8:39 am, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb

wrote:


I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's:
1) odorless as possible
2) not gooey or sticky
3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal)
4) lasts for a couple hours at least
5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible.


Hope that isn't asking too much?????
Thanks in advance...
Doug


If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the
DEET and
don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). There are
dozens of
other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a
limited
time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon
lotion)
to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of
chrysanthemum,
which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google
search
for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most
of my
time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is
the
most readily available and effective.


A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia
VERY
handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of
the
ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a
"tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a
Gatorade
bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a
child
(or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once
held
consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or
worse, it
might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about
religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry....


Good luck,
R


Idiot.


g.


hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's
starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is
being brought to the forefront by the writer himself.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom


Aw, he's just mad because Ken got to party with Barney Frank and he didn't...I
betcha there was plenty of Drambuie and sweet vermouth consumed at THAT little
shindig...

Beefcake - it's what was for dinner,
R- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Richard
Come on now. The election is long past. You have some good insights
and I would like to hear your opinion, if you can speak freely, on
questions that many Americans still wonder about.

Let me try to put it delicately: Why did Bush surround himself with so
many allies/assistants/etc of, shall we say, "exotic tastes?" Like C.
Rove for example. Surely the Secret Service alerted the Prez or at
least COS Card that Rove was bringing male prostitutes into the White
House security areas. Surely the Prez knew something about the
security problems posed by the adulterous tastes of Cheney's chief
staffers. Who was responsible for selecting the WH military aide who
was a Cuban spy? Was that guy also involved intimately with the Rove
sex group? Was it AG Gonzales who finally got tired of the Secret
Service punting on this stuff and had the FBI roust out these folks?
Is there anything more than rumor that Cheney was extorting these
folks?

Anyway, with time it should be possible to calmly shed some light on
these questions, for historical accuracy if for no other reason. Or do
we have to wait for the insider books?

Dave
Truth Seeker
Wall Painter
Patriot
  #4  
Old August 25th, 2009, 02:37 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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On Aug 24, 5:16*am, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:57:16 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:

"Giles" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 8:39 am, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb

wrote:


I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's:
1) odorless as possible
2) not gooey or sticky
3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal)
4) lasts for a couple hours at least
5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible.


Hope that isn't asking too much?????
Thanks in advance...
Doug


If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the
DEET and
don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). There are
dozens of
other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a
limited
time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon
lotion)
to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of
chrysanthemum,
which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google
search
for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most
of my
time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is
the
most readily available and effective.


A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia
VERY
handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of
the
ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a
"tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a
Gatorade
bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a
child
(or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once
held
consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or
worse, it
might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about
religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry....


Good luck,
R


Idiot.


g.


hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly?? It's
starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is
being brought to the forefront by the writer himself.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom


Aw, he's just mad because Ken got to party with Barney Frank and he didn't...I
betcha there was plenty of Drambuie and sweet vermouth consumed at THAT little
shindig...

Beefcake - it's what was for dinner,


Cretin.

g.
  #5  
Old August 25th, 2009, 02:35 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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On Aug 23, 7:57*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Giles" wrote in message

...
On Aug 19, 8:39 am, wrote:





On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT), digitaldougb

wrote:


I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's:
1) odorless as possible
2) not gooey or sticky
3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal)
4) lasts for a couple hours at least
5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible.


Hope that isn't asking too much?????
Thanks in advance...
Doug


If your only issue with DEET is your watch, my advice would be use the
DEET and
don't wear that watch (or get one with a mineral crystal). There are
dozens of
other "potions" out there that will keep a few pesky insects away for a
limited
time - everything from "Skin So Soft" (or however it's spelled - an Avon
lotion)
to citronella-based stuff to flower-based (it's some type of
chrysanthemum,
which general group is also the basis for some insecticides - do a Google
search
for products based on it), but in my considerable experience (I spend most
of my
time in areas that are full of various "flying biting critters"), DEET is
the
most readily available and effective.


A little trick - keep a small bottle (1-2 oz/25-50ml) of household ammonia
VERY
handy for gnat bites - if you get into a patch of them, simply rub some of
the
ammonia on the area with the bites...that "bite stick" stuff, at $5-6USD a
"tube" is nothing but ammonia...and for God's sake, don't carry it in a
Gatorade
bottle, a sippy box, Drambuie airliner, baby bottle, or anything that a
child
(or child-like adult) might remotely mistake for a container that once
held
consumable liquid, lest a child (or Louie) find it and guzzle it...or
worse, it
might get Dave, Bill, and Goatgang embroiled in a 413 post thread about
religion, responsibility, and pseudochemistry....


Good luck,
R


Idiot.

g.

hmmm. One gives advice, the other one contributes....what, exactly??


Hm.....and yet another is a professional apologist.

It's
starting to become obvious who the idiot is, and sadly, that conclusion is
being brought to the forefront by the writer himself.


Yeah? You think so? Truly?

giles
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Old August 19th, 2009, 07:26 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Don Phillipson[_3_]
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"digitaldougb" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's:
1) odorless as possible
2) not gooey or sticky
3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal)
4) lasts for a couple hours at least
5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible.


Avoid gas-pressurized canisters, i.e. use a manual
pump (as supplied with some formulations of Off w/DEET.)
Do not attempt overall coverage straight from the spray
can, e.g. make two or four squirts at your head, then
smear the repellant around with your hands to coat
all exposed skin.

Spectacles and watch glasses are easily protected by
putting them in your pocket until repellant has been
applied and dried. Rod and line finishes are no less vulnerable
to DEET or its solvents: for this reason many anglers rinse
their hands to remove repellant from their hands.

DEET and citronella are what we rely on for blackfly,
mosquitos and deer flies, all severe hereabouts. For
the worst fly periods, we wear bug jackets (cotton
mesh, kept in a plastic bag, recharged with an ounce
or two of repellant once a month. We mix our own
from bulk purchases.)

All repellants are likely to seem sticky when first
applied, but we seldom know whether this comes
from the active chemical or the solvent/diluant.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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Old August 19th, 2009, 10:16 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Jack
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On Aug 18, 8:02*pm, digitaldougb wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's:
1) odorless as possible
2) not gooey or sticky
3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal)
4) lasts for a couple hours at least
5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible.

Hope that isn't asking too much?????
Thanks in advance...
Doug

------------------------------------------------------
Doug Bardwell
Bardwell Photography
Website: *bardwellphotography.com
Blog: * * *www.thetravelingtripod.com
-----------------------------------------------------


Although I have not tried this, I have a friend who is outdoors quite
a bit. He carries a small spray-bottle of Listerine. He swears it is
among the best he has used. If you try it let us know how it works.
Jack
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Old August 19th, 2009, 10:26 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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digitaldougb wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's:
1) odorless as possible
2) not gooey or sticky
3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal)
4) lasts for a couple hours at least
5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible.

Hope that isn't asking too much?????
Thanks in advance...


Yeah, that's asking too much. The only thing that works
is Deet. I use the little spritzers from Ben's. Be careful
what you spritz and use the back of your hands to spread
it around and you'll be fine.

--
Ken Fortenberry
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Old August 19th, 2009, 10:32 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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In message , Ken Fortenberry
writes
digitaldougb wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's:
1) odorless as possible
2) not gooey or sticky
3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal)
4) lasts for a couple hours at least
5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible.
Hope that isn't asking too much?????
Thanks in advance...


Yeah, that's asking too much. The only thing that works
is Deet. I use the little spritzers from Ben's. Be careful
what you spritz and use the back of your hands to spread
it around and you'll be fine.


I don't know if they are available in the USA but over here I like to
use "Jungle Formula" sachets. Very handy to keep in your wallet.

The sachets are about credit card size , very convenient and very
effective.
Each one contains a moist wipe.
--
Bill Grey

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Old August 19th, 2009, 10:29 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Aug 18, 9:02*pm, digitaldougb wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for a bug spray that's:
1) odorless as possible
2) not gooey or sticky
3) preferably doesn't have Deet (which eats my watch crystal)
4) lasts for a couple hours at least
5) and keeps as many types of bugs away as possible.

Hope that isn't asking too much?????
Thanks in advance...
Doug

------------------------------------------------------
Doug Bardwell
Bardwell Photography
Website: *bardwellphotography.com
Blog: * * *www.thetravelingtripod.com
-----------------------------------------------------


Cutters Advanced (no DEET) works for very short periods of time on
mosquitoes, but has no effect at all on blackfles. DEET is the only
way to go, and if the bugs are really thick, the 100% concentration is
the way to go. As another poster said, don't rely on the spray. I take
off my hat, watch and glasses, spray (pump, not aerosol) into the palm
of one hand, and cover all exposed areas. I then clean it off the
palm, to avoid damage to fly line, waders, etc, and put on the items I
removed. Repeat the procedure every few hours.
 




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