OT In Defense of Tofu

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 16:05:37 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Wolfgang wrote:
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Myself, I've had more superb meals in the basements of southern Baptist
churches than in four star restaurants....

That is doubtless because you've eaten more meals in church basements
than in four star restaurants. There are only 180 four and five star
restaurants in the United States, none whatsoever in Wisconsin, and
if you don't find the fare in any one of them better than that in a
church basement you wouldn't know a superb meal from cheese curd.

FYI, here's the 2004 list of four and five restaurants in the US.

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2...lFiveStar.html

--
Ken Fortenberry



They forgot Champ's, here in Merrill. Chocolate chip pancakes...mmm.

g.c.

They also left out Skis in Lincoln-- At least 6 stars.
"George Cleveland" wrote in message
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 16:05:37 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Wolfgang wrote:
...
Myself, I've had more superb meals in the basements of southern Baptist
churches than in four star restaurants....

That is doubtless because you've eaten more meals in church basements
than in four star restaurants. There are only 180 four and five star
restaurants in the United States, none whatsoever in Wisconsin, and
if you don't find the fare in any one of them better than that in a
church basement you wouldn't know a superb meal from cheese curd.

FYI, here's the 2004 list of four and five restaurants in the US.

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2...lFiveStar.html

--
Ken Fortenberry



They forgot Champ's, here in Merrill. Chocolate chip pancakes...mmm.

g.c.

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
...
Myself, I've had more superb meals in the basements of southern Baptist
churches than in four star restaurants....

That is doubtless because you've eaten more meals in church basements
than in four star restaurants. There are only 180 four and five star
restaurants in the United States, none whatsoever in Wisconsin, and
if you don't find the fare in any one of them better than that in a
church basement you wouldn't know a superb meal from cheese curd.

FYI, here's the 2004 list of four and five restaurants in the US.

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2...lFiveStar.html

I wonder how many of them serve tofu?

"Tim Carter" wrote in message
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I wonder how many of them serve tofu?



About as many as serve deep fried turkey.

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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FYI, here's the 2004 list of four and five restaurants in the US.

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2...lFiveStar.html

--
Ken Fortenberry


If'n ya look waaaaay down the list of four-star restaurants, NC, you'll find
the Angus Barn, in Raleigh. My dad managed the Angus Barn in the late 60s
and early 70s.

Op --I know good fixin's and deep-fried turkey is good fixin's!--

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
...
Myself, I've had more superb meals in the basements of southern Baptist
churches than in four star restaurants....

That is doubtless because you've eaten more meals in church basements
than in four star restaurants.

Actually, it's only in part because I've eaten more meals in church
basements than I have in four star restaurants. I've had fine meals and
utter crap in both. Meanwhile, if you want to pretend that you don't get
the point, that's o.k. Then again, I suppose we have to deal with the very
real possibility that a self professed elitist given to stupid and erroneous
pronouncements about what bruschetta is and ain't (based, presumably, on his
experiences at the local Olive Garden), and who doesn't understand the
distinction between "elite" and "elitist", really doesn't get the
point......and that's o.k., too.

There are only 180 four and five star
restaurants in the United States, none whatsoever in Wisconsin,

Depends on who you ask.

and
if you don't find the fare in any one of them better than that in a
church basement you wouldn't know a superb meal from cheese curd.

I've had many a fine dish based on cheese curds, hominy, peanut butter,
tripe, plain flour dumplings, and any number of humble ingredients that
doubtless fail to live up to your pretensions but nevertheless, somehow,
find their way onto inumerable exquisite menus. I sometimes find the fare
in a good restaurant better than that in a church basement and sometimes it
works the other way around. It varies considerably from place to place,
time to time, and item to item. I have never yet found a restaurant with a
chicken fried steak anywhere near as good as that I had in many homes and
church basements in north Georgia. And I have never yet found, anywhere,
rouladen as good as my mother used to make. Fresh (that is to say, dipped
from the vat while you watch) cheese curds from Mullens cheese factory in
Knowlton, WI are an incomparable delight. Granted, cheese curds are an
acquired taste but then, what ain't? So, it really isn't a matter of making
a distinction between fine food and cheese curds. Good chefs all over the
world have embraced such humble fare and made it their own. You ever had a
thought you could call your own?

FYI, here's the 2004 list of four and five restaurants in the US.

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2...lFiveStar.html

Interesting. We all get through life in our own unique ways. If you want
to let an oil company decide what you like to eat, that's fine with me.
Hm.....perhaps they'd be willing to run the country for you too.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

That is doubtless because you've eaten more meals in church basements
than in four star restaurants.

Actually, it's only in part because I've eaten more meals in church
basements than I have in four star restaurants. I've had fine meals and
utter crap in both. ...

Let's cut through the sanctimonious "everyman" blather because we both
know it's utter bull****. Mobil stars are conferred upon culinary
professionals BY culinary professionals. I don't care how good a feed
Aunt Beulah and Cousin Sadie can put on down to the church basement or
how much you like your Mommie's cooking we WERE talking about superb
meals.

So tell us, which of the 180 listed restaurants failed to provide you a
meal at least as good as that which you would find in a church basement ?

C'mon Wolfie, this would be a public service. Gawd knows four star
restaurants are expensive, if you can give us a heads up from personal
experience on which of those 180 restaurants we should avoid that would
would be awfully good of you. You HAVE eaten in at least one of those
restaurants, right ? And the meal was utter crap, right ? So, which
restaurant was it ?

--
Ken Fortenberry- shiny new nickel time ;-)

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

That is doubtless because you've eaten more meals in church basements
than in four star restaurants.

Actually, it's only in part because I've eaten more meals in church
basements than I have in four star restaurants. I've had fine meals and
utter crap in both. ...

Let's cut through the sanctimonious "everyman" blather because we both
know it's utter bull****.

No blather. As every man with an appreciation for good food knows, it is
where you find it. And you find it all over the world in fine restaurants,
home kitchens, church basements, and roadside stands. Some of the best food
I've ever eaten was prepared by unlettered (as well as unwashed) peasants
cooking over found fuel in dilapidated plywood carts on roadsides in the
hinterlands of northern Mexico. What's bull**** is your continued pretense
in the face of what everyman knows to be a fact. What's amusing is your
insistence on holding to an untenable position in the face of the fact that
the best chefs in the world understand where to go to learn about food.
NONE of the great cuisines of the world were invented by chefs.....they
merely refine and enlarge upon long standing themes.

Mobil stars are conferred upon culinary
professionals BY culinary professionals.

Golly wow. Next time you suck one of their dicks, ask if it's o.k. if I
continue to decide for myself what I like, o.k.?

I don't care how good a feed
Aunt Beulah and Cousin Sadie can put on down to the church basement or
how much you like your Mommie's cooking

Precisely. That's the point. And it's your problem, not mine.

we WERE talking about superb
meals.

Which you continue to demonstrate you wouldn't know if they jumped up and
bit you on your ignorant and pompous fat ass.

So tell us, which of the 180 listed restaurants failed to provide you a
meal at least as good as that which you would find in a church basement ?
C'mon Wolfie, this would be a public service.

Every one listed has thus far failed to provide me with a good meal.

Gawd knows four star
restaurants are expensive,

Which, if you were in the habit of thinking for yourself, would provide you
with an important hint concerning how they get to be four star restaurants.

if you can give us a heads up from personal
experience on which of those 180 restaurants we should avoid that would
would be awfully good of you.

Can't do it. Sorry.

You HAVE eaten in at least one of those
restaurants, right ?

Nope.

And the meal was utter crap, right ? So, which
restaurant was it ?

See above.

You really don't have a clue as to what this discussion is about, do you?

Wolfgang

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Let's cut through the sanctimonious "everyman" blather because we both
know it's utter bull****.


Do you know how to do that? I've never seen you do it before.

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
So tell us, which of the 180 listed restaurants failed to provide you a
meal at least as good as that which you would find in a church basement ?

C'mon Wolfie, this would be a public service. Gawd knows four star
restaurants are expensive, if you can give us a heads up from personal
experience on which of those 180 restaurants we should avoid that would
would be awfully good of you. You HAVE eaten in at least one of those
restaurants, right ? And the meal was utter crap, right ? So, which
restaurant was it ?

Methinks the restaurant raters had more on their agenda than you or I
would, just as the editor of a FF rag has nothing but kudos to say about any
rod from a maker that pays to advertise in his magazine. I'd bet many
restaurants didn't make the list because they didn't realize they were
supposed to fawn over the raters. (Yeah, I know Mobil doesn't publish a
restaurant magazine, but I bet their raters paid less than I did and got
more attention). I have eaten in six of the restaurants on the current list,
and although none of them was a disappointing experience, by those standards
I can think of four restaurants within 50 miles that deserve to be on the
list. IMNSFHO, omission from the Mobile list isn't a good reason to lump an
establishment with all the other greasy spoons.