Attention Pa Fisherman: Special Regulations change

Are they also planning on requiring circle hooks to be used with the bait?
California DF&G is starting to require circle hooks when bait fishing in
some salmon fisheries. CA DF&G claims circle hooks have far less mortality
than regular bait hooks. I haven't seen any studies that support circle
hooks.

Good luck!

John


"G. M. Zimmermann" wrote in message
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To anyone from Pennsylvania, partiularly the southeast portion of the
state.
I was just out fishing on the Delayed Harvest ALO section of the
Tulpehocken
when a gentlemen approched me and we struck up a convesation. He informed
me
that he was a member of the loacl chapter of trout unlimited and that the
PA
Fish & Boat commission was proposing changesing the reulations of the
stream to
allow the use of bait during the period of time. Such a change would be
disasterous to the resident population of fish. Every other stream or
lake
with trout in it in this area is basicly fished out during the spring
trout
season, because most of the guys around here are only interested in
catching as
many keepers as they can. The Tulpehocken is the one place where most of
the
fishing pressure is from guys interested in catch and release. If any of
you
are intersted in preserving this fishery and its current regulation,
please let
the PA F&BC how you feel.

"John Lindsey" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Are they also planning on requiring circle hooks to be used with the bait?
California DF&G is starting to require circle hooks when bait fishing in
some salmon fisheries. CA DF&G claims circle hooks have far less
mortality
than regular bait hooks. I haven't seen any studies that support circle
hooks.

Good luck!

John


Circle hooks were specifically devised for longline fishing, in order to
guarantee a mortality rate of 100%. They actually come close.

TL
MC

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
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Circle hooks were specifically devised for longline fishing, in order to
guarantee a mortality rate of 100%. They actually come close.


Perhaps you are thinking of something else? A quick google returned:

http://home.att.net/~sarasotadon/circle-hook.htm
http://www.ccact.org/circle_hooks.htm
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...onal/crsb.html
http://www.floridamarine.org/feature...e.asp?id=20414

"Wayne Knight" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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"Mike Connor" wrote in message
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Circle hooks were specifically devised for longline fishing, in order to
guarantee a mortality rate of 100%. They actually come close.


Perhaps you are thinking of something else? A quick google returned:

http://home.att.net/~sarasotadon/circle-hook.htm
http://www.ccact.org/circle_hooks.htm
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...onal/crsb.html
http://www.floridamarine.org/feature...e.asp?id=20414



Nope, do a search on "Longline hooks", or "Circle Longline Hooks".

Apart from which, I used them for a while. For some fly-fishing. Practically
all the fish I caught ( predominantly cod) ,were hooked in the throat, and
impossible to release unharmed. The main reason for commercial fishermen
using the circle hooks was that the fish was less likely to bleed, and
consequently did not die on the line. A dead fish which may have been dead
for a while, is not worth as much as live fish which can be freshly killed.

These hooks were used on stationary unmanned lines. Quite a few studies
have shown that the mortality rate on the lines when using such hooks is
very low when compared to "J" hooks. This is true. The hook up and hold
rates are also much higher, which in a commercial fishery means more dead
fish. Many fish which would have escpaed from "J" hooks, are unable to
escape from circle hooks. Owing to the jaw, lip and scissor hooking, (
thought to be as high as 95% in many cases and species), the fish does not
bleed, and does not die quite so quickly on the unamnned line. Also, hook
removal is facilitated.

The properties are explained here quite well;
http://www.stripersurf.com/circlehooks.html

Some other interesting bits and pieces;
http://www.sarasota-fla-fishing.com/circle.html

For most active fly-fishing, these hooks are quite useless. They do not
depend on the skill of an angler to set the hook. They depend on the fish
moving away with the bait, and this usually causes a lip or scissor hook up.
Any action on the part of the angler, apart from slowly tightening the line
as the fish moves away will either cause the fish to eject the hook, or
result in a bad hookup, in the throat etc.

Some species of fish ( like Cod) tend to engulf their prey, and basically
suck it down into their gullets. When they move, they are hooked in the
gullet.

For stationary, or "dead drift" fishing with either flies or bait, these
hooks are incredibly efficient. This is however not really fly-fishing, it
is more like trap setting. Which is precisely what the hooks were designed
for.

Sport anglers using such hooks will most certainly cause less fish
mortality, for several reasons. If they move the hook, they either lose the
fish, or hook it badly. Usually they will just lose it, although this depnds
on the feeding habits of the species involved. If they don´t move the hook,
the fish hooks itself, and usually in the lip, jaw or scissors. This is
then easy to release undamaged.

Most types of fly-fishing depend on the angler applying motion to the fly.
This will not work with circle hooks. If the angler may not move the fly,
then about 90% of flyfishing is no longer flyfishing as such, but more or
less the same as bait fishing.

TL
MC

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
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Nope, do a search on "Longline hooks", or "Circle Longline Hooks".

Apart from which, I used them for a while. For some fly-fishing.
Practically
all the fish I caught ( predominantly cod) ,were hooked in the throat, and
impossible to release unharmed. The main reason for commercial fishermen
using the circle hooks was that the fish was less likely to bleed, and
consequently did not die on the line. A dead fish which may have been
dead
for a while, is not worth as much as live fish which can be freshly
killed.


Which going back to your statement which formed the basis for my question-
"Circle hooks were specifically devised for longline fishing, in order to
guarantee a mortality rate of 100%. They actually come close"

Seems to me if they were designed to keep fish alive on long lines (which my
posted links agreed with) that would not guarantee a mortality rate of 100%?

I think the post you responded to initially was regarding use of live bait
on circle hooks and not flies. Based on limited reading and understanding,
they don't sound appropriate for artificial lures of any type, especially
flies which agains supports your thesis.

Or perhaps we have two people speaking the same language not understanding
each other? Like that's never happened around here, ya know?