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Old March 19th, 2004, 09:40 PM
snakefiddler
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
m...
This is kinda cool

http://www.fundrace.org/neighbors.php

I plugged in my zip code, 61801, and found that all my neighbors
but one here in Urbana who sent money to a political campaign
sent their money to the good guys. Most of them to Howard Dean.

--
Ken Fortenberry


it appears that a lot of the folks contributing in my area are self
employed. this is a great way to determine who's business to support and
who NOT to give your money to- if you care what they do with it.

-Snakefiddler


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Old March 19th, 2004, 09:56 PM
Tim J.
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"snakefiddler" wrote...

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
This is kinda cool

http://www.fundrace.org/neighbors.php

I plugged in my zip code, 61801, and found that all my neighbors
but one here in Urbana who sent money to a political campaign
sent their money to the good guys. Most of them to Howard Dean.


it appears that a lot of the folks contributing in my area are self
employed. this is a great way to determine who's business to support and
who NOT to give your money to- if you care what they do with it.


I think it would be rather shallow to not do business with someone because of
their political beliefs and support of a legitimate political party. But that's
just me.
--
TL,
Tim
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Old March 19th, 2004, 10:29 PM
rb608
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"Tim J." wrote in message
I think it would be rather shallow to not do business with someone because

of
their political beliefs and support of a legitimate political party. But

that's
just me.


True enough, but all other things being equal....

I see that a few folks on the list for my area are real estate agents. If I
were in the market to drop a few thousand in RE fees, I would rather *not*
contract with a business who would fork over $2,000 to a man I detest, when
there are easily dozens of others who apparently would not. But that's just
me. g

Joe F.


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Old March 19th, 2004, 11:42 PM
Tim J.
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"rb608" wrote...
"Tim J." wrote:
I think it would be rather shallow to not do business with someone because
of their political beliefs and support of a legitimate political party. But
that's just me.


True enough, but all other things being equal....

I see that a few folks on the list for my area are real estate agents. If I
were in the market to drop a few thousand in RE fees, I would rather *not*
contract with a business who would fork over $2,000 to a man I detest, when
there are easily dozens of others who apparently would not. But that's just
me. g


That's exactly why the contribution information should be kept private from the
general public - just based on the reaction from some of this group alone. An
individual should not suffer repercussions because of their political beliefs
and affiliations unless they decide to stand on a soapbox and shout them to the
world, which would declare an open target to the public. This is the equivalent
of "blacklisting" in my book, especially if, as in my case, your political views
are unpopular in your geographical area.

Besides, residing in Massachusetts, if I were to follow this policy I'd never be
able to buy *anything* from *anyone* ever again.

I'm in too deep already. EOT for me. OBROFFIt's back to drooling over the new
Orvis catalog that arrived in the mail today.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj


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Old March 19th, 2004, 10:37 PM
Ken Fortenberry
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Tim J. wrote:

I think it would be rather shallow to not do business with someone because of
their political beliefs and support of a legitimate political party. But that's
just me.


Doesn't sound shallow to me, sounds like using the power of your pocketbook
to further your self-interest. What's wrong with that ?

I once chose a law firm because they sponsored the Grateful Dead Hour on
our local alternative radio station. Incompetent hippy *******s ended up
costing me a small fortune, uhh ... where was I going with that ? ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Old March 20th, 2004, 02:49 AM
Wolfgang
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"Tim J." wrote in message
...

I think it would be rather shallow to not do business with someone because

of
their political beliefs and support of a legitimate political party. But

that's
just me.


Hm.....

I'd bet a shiny new nickel that it would take you less than five minutes to
come up with a very good argument demonstrating why yours is a morally
repugnant position.

Wolfgang
who just loves a can't lose proposition.


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Old March 20th, 2004, 05:20 AM
snakefiddler
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"Tim J." wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote...

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
This is kinda cool

http://www.fundrace.org/neighbors.php

I plugged in my zip code, 61801, and found that all my neighbors
but one here in Urbana who sent money to a political campaign
sent their money to the good guys. Most of them to Howard Dean.


it appears that a lot of the folks contributing in my area are self
employed. this is a great way to determine who's business to support

and
who NOT to give your money to- if you care what they do with it.


I think it would be rather shallow to not do business with someone because

of
their political beliefs and support of a legitimate political party. But

that's
just me.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



bull****. why should i give my money to someone who is going to turn around
and use it to support a candidate or organization that i do not support or
worse detest.
i know it is next to impossible to know where every business i patronize
puts their money, but at least when i do know, i can make an informed
decision.

-snakefiddler
that's my story, and i'm stickin to it!


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Old March 20th, 2004, 05:44 AM
Bob Weinberger
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...

bull****. why should i give my money to someone who is going to turn

around
and use it to support a candidate or organization that i do not support or
worse detest.
i know it is next to impossible to know where every business i patronize
puts their money, but at least when i do know, i can make an informed
decision.

-snakefiddler
that's my story, and i'm stickin to it!


By your reasoning above, if I was your employer and found out that you
were giving money to a candidate that I do not support or worse detest, I
should deny you any raises or even fire you.
In "at will" states I would have that option (though I'd probably have to
give another reason). It may be legal, but is it "right"?


--
Bob Weinberger
La, Grande, OR

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Old March 20th, 2004, 06:22 AM
B J Conner
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I hope you find plenty of Coors beer and Walmarts over there. Everybody
votes for and with their pocketbook. Some people donate large amounts in
order to get what they want. I spend mine to keep them form getting what I
don't want. Lots of the $ 2,000 donars want to see the snowmobiles in
Yellowstone, clearcuts, cynide leach mines etc. They can do it without my
help. I just canceled a LL Bean credit card because it's issued by MBNA who
gave Shrub $200,000.
TMSAISTO
"Bob Weinberger" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...

bull****. why should i give my money to someone who is going to turn

around
and use it to support a candidate or organization that i do not support

or
worse detest.
i know it is next to impossible to know where every business i patronize
puts their money, but at least when i do know, i can make an informed
decision.

-snakefiddler
that's my story, and i'm stickin to it!


By your reasoning above, if I was your employer and found out that you
were giving money to a candidate that I do not support or worse detest, I
should deny you any raises or even fire you.
In "at will" states I would have that option (though I'd probably have to
give another reason). It may be legal, but is it "right"?


--
Bob Weinberger
La, Grande, OR

place a dot between bobs and stuff and remove invalid to send email




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Old March 20th, 2004, 07:12 AM
Wolfgang
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"Bob Weinberger" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...

bull****. why should i give my money to someone who is going to turn

around
and use it to support a candidate or organization that i do not support

or
worse detest.
i know it is next to impossible to know where every business i patronize
puts their money, but at least when i do know, i can make an informed
decision.

-snakefiddler
that's my story, and i'm stickin to it!


By your reasoning above, if I was your employer and found out that you
were giving money to a candidate that I do not support or worse detest, I
should deny you any raises or even fire you.
In "at will" states I would have that option (though I'd probably have to
give another reason). It may be legal, but is it "right"?


--
Bob Weinberger
La, Grande, OR


Hm.....so, if you find out that one of your local shopkeepers contributes
regularly to the White Aryan Resistance, do you make a point of patronizing
his or her establishment in order to protect all of our rights?

Wolfgang
and lest anyone should protest the use of a violent extremist group for
illustrative purposes, i'd bet a shiny new nickel that he or she was not
vacationing in or near baghdad a year ago today.


 




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