Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team

Great idea Chuck. I can tell you that I like driving the Chevy far more
than the Expedition I just got out of. Too much play in the steering wheel
for me, I was never comfortable towing in that truck.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
. ..
That's exactly the way the Tahoe was, it was rare to feel the boat back
there even in high winds, and rarely did a passing semi blow me off the
road
or suck me back into them when passing. I blew a tire in the rain, and the
boat went sideways, when I looked in the drivers side mirror I could see
the
prop. I felt a little pull, when the trailer corrected, but it was a great
testament to how stable the Tahoe platform was for towing. It was a
without
a doubt the best tow vehicle I have had to date. It seems that both the
Tahoe and Suburban were Chevy's best tow'ers. My wife has a Chevy 1500
that
is comparable to my F-150 and the Ford just flat out performs it in
towing.

I may just start compiling opinions and facts about tow vehicles and write
some kind of piece on my findings. I have never really seen an unbiased
rating on tow vehicles, atleast one that covers all the bases.

In fact I am going to do this. How about we start a list of the most
important factors we as fisherman look for in a tow vehicle, and make a
few
suggestions on which vehicles we would like to see rated. Might as well
take
advantage of my unemployment and do something constructive I'll start a
new thread to gather the needs and wants.

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com





"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Chuck- I just got a new Suburban & it's the greatest tow vehicle I can
imagine. I cant even feel my boat, even while going uphill.

Warren

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop
their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in
his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events
anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3
sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I
went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake
system
repair, I said tried

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene, honestly
I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if
Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Well, I left Nissan about a month ago to work for a SUPER Dealer with multi
dealerships in 6 states. I represent Ford, Chevrolet, GMC, Lincoln,
Mercury, Pontiac, and Buick to mention only a few. So I see the plus and
minuses in all the models. There is not one vehicle that has THE perfect
blend of everything. But I am a diesel fan, and love fifth wheels. Both GM
and Ford have an excellent model, and both can handle the important stuff
extremely well - a 22' bass boat. Talk about over-kill, nobody needs that
much truck to haul around a boat, BUT IT SURE IS FUN!!

You boys ever need a new or certified per-owned rig, just let me know. I'll
make sure you get an Excellent Deal!, and I can have it drop shipped to your
local dealer for a courtesy delivery. Hell, if we own that dealership, I'll
fly in to deliver it myself. Email me, and we can talk.

--
Craig Baugher

What price in regards to invoice?

"Craig" wrote in message
...
Well, I left Nissan about a month ago to work for a SUPER Dealer with
multi
dealerships in 6 states. I represent Ford, Chevrolet, GMC, Lincoln,
Mercury, Pontiac, and Buick to mention only a few. So I see the plus and
minuses in all the models. There is not one vehicle that has THE perfect
blend of everything. But I am a diesel fan, and love fifth wheels. Both
GM
and Ford have an excellent model, and both can handle the important stuff
extremely well - a 22' bass boat. Talk about over-kill, nobody needs that
much truck to haul around a boat, BUT IT SURE IS FUN!!

You boys ever need a new or certified per-owned rig, just let me know.
I'll
make sure you get an Excellent Deal!, and I can have it drop shipped to
your
local dealer for a courtesy delivery. Hell, if we own that dealership,
I'll
fly in to deliver it myself. Email me, and we can talk.

--
Craig Baugher

I tow with a '99 Expedition. Tows fine except for the gas mileage. I tow a
4400# rig. Going to get a new Diesel pickumup. Prefer the Chevy, but
neighbor works for Ford and says I can get a really good deal on a buyback.
They supposedly have the programming on the turbo fixed.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Great idea Chuck. I can tell you that I like driving the Chevy far more
than the Expedition I just got out of. Too much play in the steering
wheel
for me, I was never comfortable towing in that truck.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
. ..
That's exactly the way the Tahoe was, it was rare to feel the boat back
there even in high winds, and rarely did a passing semi blow me off the
road
or suck me back into them when passing. I blew a tire in the rain, and
the
boat went sideways, when I looked in the drivers side mirror I could see
the
prop. I felt a little pull, when the trailer corrected, but it was a
great
testament to how stable the Tahoe platform was for towing. It was a
without
a doubt the best tow vehicle I have had to date. It seems that both the
Tahoe and Suburban were Chevy's best tow'ers. My wife has a Chevy 1500
that
is comparable to my F-150 and the Ford just flat out performs it in
towing.

I may just start compiling opinions and facts about tow vehicles and
write
some kind of piece on my findings. I have never really seen an unbiased
rating on tow vehicles, atleast one that covers all the bases.

In fact I am going to do this. How about we start a list of the most
important factors we as fisherman look for in a tow vehicle, and make a
few
suggestions on which vehicles we would like to see rated. Might as well
take
advantage of my unemployment and do something constructive I'll start
a
new thread to gather the needs and wants.

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com





"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Chuck- I just got a new Suburban & it's the greatest tow vehicle I can
imagine. I cant even feel my boat, even while going uphill.

Warren

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop
their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't
personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team
member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in
his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events
anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into
the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best
tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over
to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that
he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3
sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a
boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay
for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over
bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I
went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake
system
repair, I said tried

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new
model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene,
honestly
I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if
Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Bill. ask your neighbor if he has any left over "X" plans, or if he
can get one from a friend at work. If not, let me know.

--
Jerry Barton
www.jerrys-world.com

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
I tow with a '99 Expedition. Tows fine except for the gas mileage.
I tow a
4400# rig. Going to get a new Diesel pickumup. Prefer the Chevy,
but
neighbor works for Ford and says I can get a really good deal on a
buyback.
They supposedly have the programming on the turbo fixed.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Great idea Chuck. I can tell you that I like driving the Chevy
far more
than the Expedition I just got out of. Too much play in the
steering
wheel
for me, I was never comfortable towing in that truck.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
. ..
That's exactly the way the Tahoe was, it was rare to feel the
boat back
there even in high winds, and rarely did a passing semi blow me
off the
road
or suck me back into them when passing. I blew a tire in the
rain, and
the
boat went sideways, when I looked in the drivers side mirror I
could see
the
prop. I felt a little pull, when the trailer corrected, but it
was a
great
testament to how stable the Tahoe platform was for towing. It
was a
without
a doubt the best tow vehicle I have had to date. It seems that
both the
Tahoe and Suburban were Chevy's best tow'ers. My wife has a
Chevy 1500
that
is comparable to my F-150 and the Ford just flat out performs it
in
towing.

I may just start compiling opinions and facts about tow vehicles
and
write
some kind of piece on my findings. I have never really seen an
unbiased
rating on tow vehicles, atleast one that covers all the bases.

In fact I am going to do this. How about we start a list of the
most
important factors we as fisherman look for in a tow vehicle, and
make a
few
suggestions on which vehicles we would like to see rated. Might
as well
take
advantage of my unemployment and do something constructive
I'll start
a
new thread to gather the needs and wants.

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com





"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Chuck- I just got a new Suburban & it's the greatest tow
vehicle I can
imagine. I cant even feel my boat, even while going uphill.

Warren

"Chuck Coger" wrote in
message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would
drop
their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage
out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't
personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro
Team
member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using
them in
his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour
events
anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get
into
the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my
best
tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a
boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since
switched over
to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake
system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I
noticed that
he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I
mean 3
sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one
towing a
boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have
to pay
for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove
over
bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford
when I
went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for
the brake
system
repair, I said tried

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the
new
model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour
scene,
honestly
I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever
seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone
know if
Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their
team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Yea, he MADE me do all the driving while he was napping. G Bill P.
================================================== =========

"go-bassn" wrote in message ...
I was never comfortable towing in that truck.

I had a 2000 gmc 1500 with 2 sets of warped rotors and to boot, the metal
brake line was engineered too close to the rotor.
Result?
I had no brakes at all when pulling my cargo trailer. Luckily, I was able to
pull over in time...towed repaired (My $) and later sold.
I now have a GMC 2002 2500 heavy 3/4 with proper brakes. (It pulls like no
other) I have a gas hog now...put on a K & N filter and a flowmaster cat
back exaust which got me 3 or 4 mpg.
Moral: Always been a Ford guy until I looked at them side by side in
standard feature comparison.
Maybe Ford will get it right one day? (I haven't looked at 2004's yet)

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay for it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over bought an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake
system
repair, I said tried

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new model out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene, honestly I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

I am looking at a new truck. Top of list is new 2500 ext cab duramax LT.
But neighbor works for Ford and says I can get a really good deal on a 2003
6.0L F250 buyback. They supposedly have the programming right on the turbo
now. Decisions, decisions. Anyone want to buy a 99 Expedition Eddie Baur
65k miles?
Bill

"Suthern Transplant" wrote in message
nk.net...
I had a 2000 gmc 1500 with 2 sets of warped rotors and to boot, the metal
brake line was engineered too close to the rotor.
Result?
I had no brakes at all when pulling my cargo trailer. Luckily, I was able
to
pull over in time...towed repaired (My $) and later sold.
I now have a GMC 2002 2500 heavy 3/4 with proper brakes. (It pulls like
no
other) I have a gas hog now...put on a K & N filter and a flowmaster cat
back exaust which got me 3 or 4 mpg.
Moral: Always been a Ford guy until I looked at them side by side in
standard feature comparison.
Maybe Ford will get it right one day? (I haven't looked at 2004's yet)

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake
system
repair, I said tried

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene, honestly I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

"Calif Bill" wrote

I am looking at a new truck. Top of list is new 2500 ext cab duramax LT.

Go for it! The Duramax/Allison combination is pure magic, and the LT
trim level blows away the F*rd for comfort and luxury.

73, de Hans

"Hans K0HB" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote

I am looking at a new truck. Top of list is new 2500 ext cab duramax
LT.

Go for it! The Duramax/Allison combination is pure magic, and the LT
trim level blows away the F*rd for comfort and luxury.

73, de Hans

Only thing holding me up is my neighbor. He works for Ford and they bought
back a bunch of the 2003 6.0L diesels and the turbo programming was wrong.
Supposedly fixed. Figure I can maybe score one for 22-24K. A worthwhile
saving over the $40k I will pay for the Duramax.
Bill