Lapland Clave TR: pretrip jetlag report from Sweden

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 16:16:09 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote:

consists of two cases. g

Nobody said this has been happening for years like lock lopping. I can
remember pushing a guy through security in a wheel chair with a 12 pack in his
lap "back in the day".
--
Charlie...

"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On 5 Aug 2004 12:16:41 -0700, (Jonathan Cook) wrote:

Trust me on this -- he put himself through that, not the TSA. He did
NOT have to get up and walk through the metal detectors. All he had
to do was be wheeled around to the side and have someone scan him and
inspect the wheelchair. Plenty of wheelchair-bound people fly.

I saw the exact same thing Myron described happen to an elderly Japanese man
in ATL after a flight back from Tokyo. FWIW

Ah, the "telling him that he could NOT go through the scanner in the metal
chair, so he stood up and with the assistance of a cane, limped his way to the
doorway. Then she said he could NOT go through with the cane, as it was metal.
So, still smiling, he gave her the cane and held on to the frame of the scanner.
THEN she said he could NOT touch the scanner" consists of two cases. g

BTW, I think it's ****ty they would put someone through that. I'd sure like to
know why they feel that is necessary.
--
TL,
Tim
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"riverman" wrote in message
...
he could NOT go through the scanner in the metal chair, so
he stood up and with the assistance of a cane, limped his way to the
doorway. Then she said he could NOT go through with the cane, as it was
metal. So, still smiling, he gave her the cane and held on to the frame of
the scanner. THEN she said he could NOT touch the scanner, so grimacing in
pain, and probably for the first time in many years, this very eldery,
wheelchair-bound man had to walk on his own crippled feet through the
scanner.

In retrospect, we all wish we would have done just about everything
differently...

You do realize, that, having shared this situation - I will be better
prepared if I face it myself. Which will involve helping the gent, cursing
security for not having assistance in what must surely be a situation that
happens daily, and going to jail as a terrorist and it's all your fault!

Have fun in Lapland and make sure you get a lapdance.

john

"riverman" wrote in message
...
Since the clave is officially underway with 8 of the attendees already in
the north slaying the fish, and I'm willing to bet that no one up there
has
any internet access, I'll post a pretrip report from Umea as I wait for
the
arrival of Vaughan from Kuala Lumpur. I'm also way out of whack with the
time zone, so this will pass some time until the breakfast buffet opens
here
at the hotel.


I flew here from Phoenix over the past two days. Excellent series of
flights; my first flight flew right over the Grand Canyon through clear
skies...I could see all my favorite rapids and identify all the river
camps.
Gave me a real wistful feeling, which was enhanced by my emotions of
having
just spent a few weeks back in the US for the first time in a decade. I
did
some work on my house, saw some very dear friends, got that warm fuzzy
feeling of being 'back among buds', I got to spend a few hours visiting
with
my stepmom and nephew at SeaTac, and was seated between two absolutely
stunning 20-something beauties for the flight over Greenland from Seattle
to
Amsterdam, and really enjoyed the sights and smells.


Human rights and security comments (a bit naive but justified) snipped....


From Umea, the top of the world, and on my way to breakfast...
--riverman



Intuitive PTR, looking forward to the TR when you return

Mike

What I want to know from everyone using zip-ties now...how are
you supposed to remove them when you get to where you're going?
You can't be carrying *anything* that will actually cut them!
(a planeload of nail-clipper wielding people is sooo dangerous!)

Jon.

"riverman" wrote in message ...

from home for 10 years. When I first arrived in Flagstaff, I was and floored to discover that the lock on my luggage had been cut and
discarded, and there was an official piece of paper inside by

The old security measures were largely predicated on the assumption
that people would not want to blow themselves up (e.g., your bags
had to travel on your flight, they made sure you boarded). With that
out the door, unfortunately I don't see any way around baggage search.
I think it could be done much better (such as while I'm watching!), but
I don't see it going away. My latest baggage search didn't even have
a paper left in it -- and *that* bothered me very much. I want a paper
left with an ID number traceable to the employee who did the search.

him until the security people were able to find another chair for him. The
worst part of it all was the sad, cooperative smile that never once left his
face....

Trust me on this -- he put himself through that, not the TSA. He did
NOT have to get up and walk through the metal detectors. All he had
to do was be wheeled around to the side and have someone scan him and
inspect the wheelchair. Plenty of wheelchair-bound people fly.

Jon.

riverman wrote:snip there was an official piece of paper inside by
previously-locked bag informing me that, according to the rights granted the
government by the Patriot Act, my bags had been searched and item(s) may or
may not have been removed to ensure national security

That is why I never fly and they can't stop me from bringing whatever I want in
my pickup. Sure do enjoy your posts as they make me think.

Big Dale

"riverman" wrote in message
...
Since the clave is officially underway with 8 of the attendees already in
the north slaying the fish, and I'm willing to bet that no one up there
has
any internet access, I'll post a pretrip report from Umea as I wait for
the
arrival of Vaughan from Kuala Lumpur. I'm also way out of whack with the
time zone, so this will pass some time until the breakfast buffet opens
here
at the hotel.


I flew here from Phoenix over the past two days. Excellent series of
flights; my first flight flew right over the Grand Canyon through clear
skies...I could see all my favorite rapids and identify all the river
camps.
Gave me a real wistful feeling, which was enhanced by my emotions of
having
just spent a few weeks back in the US for the first time in a decade. I
did
some work on my house, saw some very dear friends, got that warm fuzzy
feeling of being 'back among buds', I got to spend a few hours visiting
with
my stepmom and nephew at SeaTac, and was seated between two absolutely
stunning 20-something beauties for the flight over Greenland from Seattle
to
Amsterdam, and really enjoyed the sights and smells.


Human rights and security comments (a bit naive but justified) snipped....


From Umea, the top of the world, and on my way to breakfast...
--riverman



Intuitive PTR, looking forward to the TR when you return

Mike

"riverman" wrote in message
...
he could NOT go through the scanner in the metal chair, so
he stood up and with the assistance of a cane, limped his way to the
doorway. Then she said he could NOT go through with the cane, as it was
metal. So, still smiling, he gave her the cane and held on to the frame of
the scanner. THEN she said he could NOT touch the scanner, so grimacing in
pain, and probably for the first time in many years, this very eldery,
wheelchair-bound man had to walk on his own crippled feet through the
scanner.

In retrospect, we all wish we would have done just about everything
differently...

You do realize, that, having shared this situation - I will be better
prepared if I face it myself. Which will involve helping the gent, cursing
security for not having assistance in what must surely be a situation that
happens daily, and going to jail as a terrorist and it's all your fault!

Have fun in Lapland and make sure you get a lapdance.

john